Compiling C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02 on Cygwin

Compiling C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02 on Cygwin

[Keith Christian]

I downloaded the .tar.gz of C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02, 19 September 2020.
Web page: http://www.kermitproject.org/ckdaily.html
Source download: http://www.kermitproject.org/ftp/kermit/test/tar/x.tar.gz

I realize that C-Kermit has not been in the Cygwin distribution for
awhile.  There is no "cygwin" target in the makefile in the x.tar.gz
source distribution.
Is there any guidance for how to compile this modern version of
C-Kermit for present-day Cygwin?

Thanks.

Re: Compiling C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02 on Cygwin

[Achim Gratz]

Keith Christian via Cygwin writes:
> Is there any guidance for how to compile this modern version of
> C-Kermit for present-day Cygwin?

The same as any other software that doesn't specifically mention Cygwin:
Pretend that Cygwin is Linux and see how far you get.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: Compiling C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02 on Cygwin

[Jeffrey Altman]

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On 11/30/2020 10:06 AM, Keith Christian via Cygwin (cygwin@cygwin.com)
wrote:
> I downloaded the .tar.gz of C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02, 19 September 2020.
> Web page: http://www.kermitproject.org/ckdaily.html
> Source download: http://www.kermitproject.org/ftp/kermit/test/tar/x.tar.gz
> 
> I realize that C-Kermit has not been in the Cygwin distribution for
> awhile.  There is no "cygwin" target in the makefile in the x.tar.gz
> source distribution.
> Is there any guidance for how to compile this modern version of
> C-Kermit for present-day Cygwin?
> 
> Thanks.

I suspect building C-Kermit with SSH, OpenSSL, Kerberos v5 support is
going to be problematic since none of that code has been updated in more
than a decade to keep up with the latest upstream packages.  I suggest
you start by trying to build for a generic linux target without any
security features.

Jeffrey Altman
former Kermit developer






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Re: Compiling C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02 on Cygwin

[Keith Christian]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:44 PM Jeffrey Altman
<jaltman@secure-endpoints.com> wrote:
> I suspect building C-Kermit with SSH, OpenSSL, Kerberos v5 support is
> going to be problematic since none of that code has been updated in more
> than a decade to keep up with the latest upstream packages.  I suggest
> you start by trying to build for a generic linux target without any
> security features.
>
> Jeffrey Altman
> former Kermit developer

Jeffrey,

Thanks so much, appreciate your taking the time to respond.  I was
puzzled when C-Kermit was dropped from Cygwin several years ago.
Former Kermit developer, quite the credentials!


Keith

Re: Compiling C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02 on Cygwin

[Eliot Moss]

On 11/30/2020 5:17 PM, Keith Christian via Cygwin wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:44 PM Jeffrey Altman
> <jaltman@secure-endpoints.com> wrote:
>> I suspect building C-Kermit with SSH, OpenSSL, Kerberos v5 support is
>> going to be problematic since none of that code has been updated in more
>> than a decade to keep up with the latest upstream packages.  I suggest
>> you start by trying to build for a generic linux target without any
>> security features.
>>
>> Jeffrey Altman
>> former Kermit developer
> 
> Jeffrey,
> 
> Thanks so much, appreciate your taking the time to respond.  I was
> puzzled when C-Kermit was dropped from Cygwin several years ago.
> Former Kermit developer, quite the credentials!

Just checked, and this does not compile out of the box for either the linux or posix target.  Not 
sure how much work will be required.  Too bad it is not set up to use ./configure to see what's 
actually available on the platform / how to use it ...

Best wishes - Eliot Moss

Re: Compiling C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02 on Cygwin

[Keith Christian]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 15:31 Eliot Moss <moss@cs.umass.edu> wrote:

> On 11/30/2020 5:17 PM, Keith Christian via Cygwin wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:44 PM Jeffrey Altman
> > <jaltman@secure-endpoints.com> wrote:
> >> I suspect building C-Kermit with SSH, OpenSSL, Kerberos v5 support is
> >> going to be problematic since none of that code has been updated in more
> >> than a decade to keep up with the latest upstream packages.  I suggest
> >> you start by trying to build for a generic linux target without any
> >> security features.
> >>
> >> Jeffrey Altman
> >> former Kermit developer
> >
> > Jeffrey,
> >
> > Thanks so much, appreciate your taking the time to respond.  I was
> > puzzled when C-Kermit was dropped from Cygwin several years ago.
> > Former Kermit developer, quite the credentials!
>
> Just checked, and this does not compile out of the box for either the
> linux or posix target.  Not
> sure how much work will be required.  Too bad it is not set up to use
> ./configure to see what's
> actually available on the platform / how to use it ...
>
> Best wishes - Eliot Moss
>


Thanks, Eliot.

Re: Compiling C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02 on Cygwin

[gs-cygwin.com]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 05:31:46PM -0500, Eliot Moss wrote:
> On 11/30/2020 5:17 PM, Keith Christian via Cygwin wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:44 PM Jeffrey Altman
> > <jaltman@secure-endpoints.com> wrote:
> > > I suspect building C-Kermit with SSH, OpenSSL, Kerberos v5 support is
> > > going to be problematic since none of that code has been updated in more
> > > than a decade to keep up with the latest upstream packages.  I suggest
> > > you start by trying to build for a generic linux target without any
> > > security features.
> > > 
> > > Jeffrey Altman
> > > former Kermit developer
> > 
> > Jeffrey,
> > 
> > Thanks so much, appreciate your taking the time to respond.  I was
> > puzzled when C-Kermit was dropped from Cygwin several years ago.
> > Former Kermit developer, quite the credentials!
> 
> Just checked, and this does not compile out of the box for either the linux
> or posix target.  Not sure how much work will be required.  Too bad it is
> not set up to use ./configure to see what's actually available on the
> platform / how to use it ...
> 
> Best wishes - Eliot Moss

For kicks, I got the *basic* C-Kermit to build under Linux and under Cygwin.
https://github.com/gstrauss/ckermit
The make command line options are in the commit messages.

It is based on
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/archive.html
C-Kermit 9.0.302  2011/07/11  cku302.tar.gz

I realized afterwards that I should have used C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02.

In any case, compiling is a first step, but does not suggest it is fully
functional.  Mostly #include and minor changes were needed, except for
one big mess with the cygwin custom struct hostent being defined with
  const char *h_name

Cheers, Glenn

Re: Compiling C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02 on Cygwin

[Keith Christian]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:23 PM <gs-cygwin.com@gluelogic.com> wrote:
> For kicks, I got the *basic* C-Kermit to build under Linux and under Cygwin.
> https://github.com/gstrauss/ckermit
> The make command line options are in the commit messages.
>
> It is based on
> http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/archive.html
> C-Kermit 9.0.302  2011/07/11  cku302.tar.gz
>
> I realized afterwards that I should have used C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02.
>
> In any case, compiling is a first step, but does not suggest it is fully
> functional.  Mostly #include and minor changes were needed, except for
> one big mess with the cygwin custom struct hostent being defined with
>   const char *h_name
>
> Cheers, Glenn

Glenn,

I tried "make linux" this morning on the 9.0.305 version, got this
output, (I_am_not_expecting_any_assistance_,) more of a report:

-rw-r-----+ 1 keith keith 382913 Sep 19 14:17 makefile

CYGWIN_NT-10.0 DESKTOP-OLN71TE 3.1.7(0.340/5/3) 2020-08-22 17:48 x86_64 Cygwin

     1  Making C-Kermit for Linux...
     2  /bin/sh: line 68: -f: command not found
     3  make[1]: Entering directory 'kermit_downloads/kermitsource'
     4  Making C-Kermit "9.0.305"  for Linux 1.2 or later...
     5  IMPORTANT: Read the comments in the linux section of the
     6  makefile if you have trouble.
     7  make xermit KTARGET=${KTARGET:-linuxa} "CC = gcc" "CC2 = gcc" \
     8  "CFLAGS = -O -DLINUX -pipe -funsigned-char -DFNFLOAT -DCK_POSIX_SIG \
     9  -DCK_NEWTERM -DTCPSOCKET -DLINUXFSSTND -DNOCOTFMC -DPOSIX \
    10  -DUSE_STRERROR -DCK_NCURSES  -I/usr/include/ncurses
-DHAVE_CRYPT_H  -DHAVE_OPENPTY  " "LNKFLAGS = " \
    11  "LIBS = -lutil   -lncurses -lresolv -lcrypt  -lm"
    12  make[2]: Entering directory 'kermit_downloads/kermitsource'
    13  gcc -O -DLINUX -pipe -funsigned-char -DFNFLOAT -DCK_POSIX_SIG
-DCK_NEWTERM -DTCPSOCKET -DLINUXFSSTND -DNOCOTFMC -DPOSIX
-DUSE_STRERROR -DCK_NCURSES  -I/usr/include/ncurses   -DHAVE_CRYPT_H
-DHAVE_OPENPTY   -DKTARGET=\"linux\" -c ckucmd.c
    14  ckucmd.c: In function ‘cmdconchk’:
    15  ckucmd.c:7579:22: error: ‘__FILE’ has no member named ‘_IO_read_end’
    16   7579 |     x = (int) ((stdin->_IO_read_end) - (stdin->_IO_read_ptr));
    17        |                      ^~
    18  ckucmd.c:7579:46: error: ‘__FILE’ has no member named ‘_IO_read_ptr’
    19   7579 |     x = (int) ((stdin->_IO_read_end) - (stdin->_IO_read_ptr));
    20        |                                              ^~
    21  make[2]: *** [makefile:988: ckucmd.o] Error 1
    22  make[2]: Leaving directory 'kermit_downloads/kermitsource'
    23  make[1]: *** [makefile:6067: linuxa] Error 2
    24  make[1]: Leaving directory 'kermit_downloads/kermitsource'
    25  make: *** [makefile:6100: linux] Error 2

Only two .o files were created:

-rw-r--r--+ 1 keith keith  48034 Dec  1 08:55 ckcmai.o
-rw-r--r--+ 1 keith keith  37108 Dec  1 08:55 ckclib.o

Keith

Re: Compiling C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02 on Cygwin

[gs-cygwin.com]

On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 09:20:51AM -0700, Keith Christian wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:23 PM <gs-cygwin.com@gluelogic.com> wrote:
> > For kicks, I got the *basic* C-Kermit to build under Linux and under Cygwin.
> > https://github.com/gstrauss/ckermit
> > The make command line options are in the commit messages.
> >
> > It is based on
> > http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/archive.html
> > C-Kermit 9.0.302  2011/07/11  cku302.tar.gz
> >
> > I realized afterwards that I should have used C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02.
> >
> > In any case, compiling is a first step, but does not suggest it is fully
> > functional.  Mostly #include and minor changes were needed, except for
> > one big mess with the cygwin custom struct hostent being defined with
> >   const char *h_name
> >
> > Cheers, Glenn
> 
> Glenn,
> 
> I tried "make linux" this morning on the 9.0.305 version, got this
> output, (I_am_not_expecting_any_assistance_,) more of a report:
> 
> -rw-r-----+ 1 keith keith 382913 Sep 19 14:17 makefile
> 
> CYGWIN_NT-10.0 DESKTOP-OLN71TE 3.1.7(0.340/5/3) 2020-08-22 17:48 x86_64 Cygwin
> 
>      1  Making C-Kermit for Linux...
>      2  /bin/sh: line 68: -f: command not found
>      3  make[1]: Entering directory 'kermit_downloads/kermitsource'
>      4  Making C-Kermit "9.0.305"  for Linux 1.2 or later...
>      5  IMPORTANT: Read the comments in the linux section of the
>      6  makefile if you have trouble.
>      7  make xermit KTARGET=${KTARGET:-linuxa} "CC = gcc" "CC2 = gcc" \
>      8  "CFLAGS = -O -DLINUX -pipe -funsigned-char -DFNFLOAT -DCK_POSIX_SIG \
>      9  -DCK_NEWTERM -DTCPSOCKET -DLINUXFSSTND -DNOCOTFMC -DPOSIX \
>     10  -DUSE_STRERROR -DCK_NCURSES  -I/usr/include/ncurses
> -DHAVE_CRYPT_H  -DHAVE_OPENPTY  " "LNKFLAGS = " \
>     11  "LIBS = -lutil   -lncurses -lresolv -lcrypt  -lm"
>     12  make[2]: Entering directory 'kermit_downloads/kermitsource'
>     13  gcc -O -DLINUX -pipe -funsigned-char -DFNFLOAT -DCK_POSIX_SIG
> -DCK_NEWTERM -DTCPSOCKET -DLINUXFSSTND -DNOCOTFMC -DPOSIX
> -DUSE_STRERROR -DCK_NCURSES  -I/usr/include/ncurses   -DHAVE_CRYPT_H
> -DHAVE_OPENPTY   -DKTARGET=\"linux\" -c ckucmd.c
>     14  ckucmd.c: In function ‘cmdconchk’:
>     15  ckucmd.c:7579:22: error: ‘__FILE’ has no member named ‘_IO_read_end’
>     16   7579 |     x = (int) ((stdin->_IO_read_end) - (stdin->_IO_read_ptr));
>     17        |                      ^~
>     18  ckucmd.c:7579:46: error: ‘__FILE’ has no member named ‘_IO_read_ptr’
>     19   7579 |     x = (int) ((stdin->_IO_read_end) - (stdin->_IO_read_ptr));
>     20        |                                              ^~
>     21  make[2]: *** [makefile:988: ckucmd.o] Error 1
>     22  make[2]: Leaving directory 'kermit_downloads/kermitsource'
>     23  make[1]: *** [makefile:6067: linuxa] Error 2
>     24  make[1]: Leaving directory 'kermit_downloads/kermitsource'
>     25  make: *** [makefile:6100: linux] Error 2
> 
> Only two .o files were created:
> 
> -rw-r--r--+ 1 keith keith  48034 Dec  1 08:55 ckcmai.o
> -rw-r--r--+ 1 keith keith  37108 Dec  1 08:55 ckclib.o
> 
> Keith

Keith, kindly look at the commits in
https://github.com/gstrauss/ckermit
https://github.com/gstrauss/ckermit/commits/master

> output, (I_am_not_expecting_any_assistance_,) more of a report:
Why bother posting before taking half a second to look at the commits?

Re: Compiling C-Kermit 9.0.305 Alpha.02 on Cygwin

[Keith Christian]

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 10:32 <gs-cygwin.com@gluelogic.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 09:20:51AM -0700, Keith Christian wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:23 PM <gs-cygwin.com@gluelogic.com> wrote:
> > > For kicks, I got the *basic* C-Kermit to build under Linux and under
> Cygwin.
> > > https://github.com/gstrauss/ckermit
> > > The make command line options are in the commit messages.
> > >
> > > It is based on
> > > http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/archive.html
> > > C-Kermit 9.0.302  2011/07/11  cku302.tar.gz
> > >
> > > I realized afterwards that I should have used C-Kermit 9.0.305
> Alpha.02.
> > >
> > > In any case, compiling is a first step, but does not suggest it is
> fully
> > > functional.  Mostly #include and minor changes were needed, except for
> > > one big mess with the cygwin custom struct hostent being defined with
> > >   const char *h_name
> > >
> > > Cheers, Glenn
> >
> > Glenn,
> >
> > I tried "make linux" this morning on the 9.0.305 version, got this
> > output, (I_am_not_expecting_any_assistance_,) more of a report:
> >
> > -rw-r-----+ 1 keith keith 382913 Sep 19 14:17 makefile
> >
> > CYGWIN_NT-10.0 DESKTOP-OLN71TE 3.1.7(0.340/5/3) 2020-08-22 17:48 x86_64
> Cygwin
> >
> >      1  Making C-Kermit for Linux...
> >      2  /bin/sh: line 68: -f: command not found
> >      3  make[1]: Entering directory 'kermit_downloads/kermitsource'
> >      4  Making C-Kermit "9.0.305"  for Linux 1.2 or later...
> >      5  IMPORTANT: Read the comments in the linux section of the
> >      6  makefile if you have trouble.
> >      7  make xermit KTARGET=${KTARGET:-linuxa} "CC = gcc" "CC2 = gcc" \
> >      8  "CFLAGS = -O -DLINUX -pipe -funsigned-char -DFNFLOAT
> -DCK_POSIX_SIG \
> >      9  -DCK_NEWTERM -DTCPSOCKET -DLINUXFSSTND -DNOCOTFMC -DPOSIX \
> >     10  -DUSE_STRERROR -DCK_NCURSES  -I/usr/include/ncurses
> > -DHAVE_CRYPT_H  -DHAVE_OPENPTY  " "LNKFLAGS = " \
> >     11  "LIBS = -lutil   -lncurses -lresolv -lcrypt  -lm"
> >     12  make[2]: Entering directory 'kermit_downloads/kermitsource'
> >     13  gcc -O -DLINUX -pipe -funsigned-char -DFNFLOAT -DCK_POSIX_SIG
> > -DCK_NEWTERM -DTCPSOCKET -DLINUXFSSTND -DNOCOTFMC -DPOSIX
> > -DUSE_STRERROR -DCK_NCURSES  -I/usr/include/ncurses   -DHAVE_CRYPT_H
> > -DHAVE_OPENPTY   -DKTARGET=\"linux\" -c ckucmd.c
> >     14  ckucmd.c: In function ‘cmdconchk’:
> >     15  ckucmd.c:7579:22: error: ‘__FILE’ has no member named
> ‘_IO_read_end’
> >     16   7579 |     x = (int) ((stdin->_IO_read_end) -
> (stdin->_IO_read_ptr));
> >     17        |                      ^~
> >     18  ckucmd.c:7579:46: error: ‘__FILE’ has no member named
> ‘_IO_read_ptr’
> >     19   7579 |     x = (int) ((stdin->_IO_read_end) -
> (stdin->_IO_read_ptr));
> >     20        |                                              ^~
> >     21  make[2]: *** [makefile:988: ckucmd.o] Error 1
> >     22  make[2]: Leaving directory 'kermit_downloads/kermitsource'
> >     23  make[1]: *** [makefile:6067: linuxa] Error 2
> >     24  make[1]: Leaving directory 'kermit_downloads/kermitsource'
> >     25  make: *** [makefile:6100: linux] Error 2
> >
> > Only two .o files were created:
> >
> > -rw-r--r--+ 1 keith keith  48034 Dec  1 08:55 ckcmai.o
> > -rw-r--r--+ 1 keith keith  37108 Dec  1 08:55 ckclib.o
> >
> > Keith
>
> Keith, kindly look at the commits in
> https://github.com/gstrauss/ckermit
> https://github.com/gstrauss/ckermit/commits/master
>
> > output, (I_am_not_expecting_any_assistance_,) more of a report:
> Why bother posting before taking half a second to look at the commits?
>

Thanks, I'll look at the commits more closely.