[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: setup (2.923)

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: setup (2.923)

[Jon Turney]

A new version of Setup (2.923) has been uploaded to:

  https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe  (64 bit version)
  https://cygwin.com/setup-x86.exe     (32 bit version)

Changes compared to 2.919:

- Add perpetual support for preremove scripts (thanks to Christian Franke)

- Major update to libsolv (from 0.6.29 to 0.7.22).  Fix a crash this causes.

- Allow packages to be marked as 'self-destruct'.  (This is intended for 
use in the rare cases where a package is obsolete, but has no direct 
replacement.)

- Add new option '--no-write-registry', which inhibits recording the 
installation root directory in the registry, which may be useful for 
portable or temporary installs (thanks to Christian Franke)

- Add view modes "Removable" and "Unneeded" (thanks to Christian Franke)

-- "Removable" shows installed packages that were selected, but can now
be safely removed, as no installed package depends on them
-- "Unneeded" shows packages which were automatically installed, but can 
now be safely removed, as no installed depends on them

- Add Ctrl-I/R/U as keyboard accelerators for 
install/reinstall/uninstall in the package chooser (thanks to Christian 
Franke)

- Restore the ability to run on Windows 5.1 (XP/Server 2003), in 
conjunction with '--allow-unsupported-windows'


This is not the place for setup feature requests.

For instructions on obtaining and building the source code for setup, 
see https://sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/setup.html

Please send bug reports, as usual, to the public mailing list cygwin AT 
cygwin DOT com.

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: setup (2.923)

[Adam Dinwoodie]

On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 at 12:46, Jon Turney wrote:
> - Add view modes "Removable" and "Unneeded" (thanks to Christian Franke)
>
> -- "Removable" shows installed packages that were selected, but can now
> be safely removed, as no installed package depends on them
> -- "Unneeded" shows packages which were automatically installed, but can
> now be safely removed, as no installed depends on them

Thank you, everyone involved in this! I'd been lamenting cygcheck-dep
not getting updated for the new dependency declaration methods, but
noticed these new options when I ran the installer yesterday, and was
very appreciative!

> - Add Ctrl-I/R/U as keyboard accelerators for
> install/reinstall/uninstall in the package chooser (thanks to Christian
> Franke)

I am also very grateful for this, too – I'm a keyboard monkey and I
find the current package selection process somewhat tedious – but I'm
also wondering if there's a way to make it more obvious. I think a lot
of folk would benefit from this function who probably aren't reading
these announcements, including all the folk who sign up in future. I
can think of a couple of obvious options, namely adding instructions
in the grey areas above or below the chooser, or adding the shortcuts
in brackets in the package selection drop-downs, but fundamentally I'd
just like to have it suggested somewhere other than the mailing list
archives for future users.

> This is not the place for setup feature requests.

Having probably just broken that rule, can you clarify what _is_ the
place for setup feature requests? Neither
https://sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/setup.html nor
https://cygwin.com/lists.html seemed to suggest a better option…

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: setup (2.923)

[Jon Turney]

On 21/11/2022 16:23, Adam Dinwoodie wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 at 12:46, Jon Turney wrote:
>> - Add view modes "Removable" and "Unneeded" (thanks to Christian Franke)
>>
>> -- "Removable" shows installed packages that were selected, but can now
>> be safely removed, as no installed package depends on them
>> -- "Unneeded" shows packages which were automatically installed, but can
>> now be safely removed, as no installed depends on them
> 
> Thank you, everyone involved in this! I'd been lamenting cygcheck-dep
> not getting updated for the new dependency declaration methods, but
> noticed these new options when I ran the installer yesterday, and was
> very appreciative!
> 
>> - Add Ctrl-I/R/U as keyboard accelerators for
>> install/reinstall/uninstall in the package chooser (thanks to Christian
>> Franke)
> 
> I am also very grateful for this, too – I'm a keyboard monkey and I
> find the current package selection process somewhat tedious – but I'm
> also wondering if there's a way to make it more obvious. I think a lot
> of folk would benefit from this function who probably aren't reading
> these announcements, including all the folk who sign up in future. I
> can think of a couple of obvious options, namely adding instructions
> in the grey areas above or below the chooser, or adding the shortcuts
> in brackets in the package selection drop-downs, but fundamentally I'd
> just like to have it suggested somewhere other than the mailing list
> archives for future users.

Yeah, we went around this a bit on cygwin-apps.

Marking these as accelerators in the drop-down menu is apparently 
problematic in some way I don't recall the details of now (and is 
usually hidden nowadays unless you opened the menu via a keypress).

>> This is not the place for setup feature requests.
> 
> Having probably just broken that rule, can you clarify what _is_ the
> place for setup feature requests? Neither
> https://sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/setup.html nor
> https://cygwin.com/lists.html seemed to suggest a better option…

The intended meaning is that replies to that email are for reporting 
problems with that release.

It's perfectly permissible to start a new email thread with a feature 
request for setup.  Of course, the likely response is "that's an idea, 
but someone has to do it" :)

I'll try to tweak that sentence for clarity in future.

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: setup (2.923)

[Christian Franke]

Adam Dinwoodie wrote:
> ...
>> - Add Ctrl-I/R/U as keyboard accelerators for
>> install/reinstall/uninstall in the package chooser (thanks to Christian
>> Franke)
> I am also very grateful for this, too – I'm a keyboard monkey and I
> find the current package selection process somewhat tedious – but I'm
> also wondering if there's a way to make it more obvious.

See "[PATCH setup] Add tooltip for Ctrl+I/R/U accelerator keys" on 
cygwin-apps ML.

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: setup (2.923)

[Jon Turney]

A new version of Setup (2.923) has been uploaded to:

  https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe  (64 bit version)
  https://cygwin.com/setup-x86.exe     (32 bit version)

Changes compared to 2.919:

- Add perpetual support for preremove scripts (thanks to Christian Franke)

- Major update to libsolv (from 0.6.29 to 0.7.22).  Fix a crash this causes.

- Allow packages to be marked as 'self-destruct'.  (This is intended for 
use in the rare cases where a package is obsolete, but has no direct 
replacement.)

- Add new option '--no-write-registry', which inhibits recording the 
installation root directory in the registry, which may be useful for 
portable or temporary installs (thanks to Christian Franke)

- Add view modes "Removable" and "Unneeded" (thanks to Christian Franke)

- Add Ctrl-I/R/U as keyboard accelerators for 
install/reinstall/uninstall in the package chooser (thanks to Christian 
Franke)

- Restore the ability to run on Windows 5.1 (XP/Server 2003), in 
conjunction with '--allow-unsupported-windows'


This is not the place for setup feature requests.

For instructions on obtaining and building the source code for setup, 
see https://sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/setup.html

Please send bug reports, as usual, to the public mailing list cygwin AT 
cygwin DOT com.