From: Eric Bischoff <ebisch@cybercable.tm.fr>
To: docbook-utils@bazar.conectiva.com.br,
docbook-tools-discuss@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: Getting indexes?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 06:36:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <392BB577.AE72C36A@cybercable.tm.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A5F46F4ED18FD211ABEE00105AC6CF077F8114@email.cu-portland.edu>
Gregory Leblanc wrote:
>
> Well, recomendations on SGML just went out to the LSB this week (err, maybe
> before the weekend, I forget). Hopefully those will get things a bit more
> standardized.
Hopefully. I don't have any feedback yet.
> I don't use the output from my stuff too often, so I'm not
> sure how to resolve those issues. You can use LyX and export to Docbook,
> but I'm not sure how that works. I just noticed that DocBook 4.0 is
> official, guess it's time to move to XML. (As of DB4, XML is official)
Yes, and thanks to Norman Walsh, it comes with XSL style
sheets.
> I have to agree that the tools that do exist aren't very well put together
> to get you up and running (although with a bit of work, it's do-able).
We have spent some time on rewriting them in a new project
called "docbook-utils" that should if Mark accepts become
part of the DocBook tools. I am waiting for Mark Galassi's
green light to put them on the DocBook-tools FTP server at
Sourceware, along with a new "LSB-proposals-conformant"
packaging (which does, by the way, put collateindex.pl in
/usr/bin ;-) ).
> What's a MUCH bigger concern to me is the lack of tools to do anything
> except process the DocBook source into other formats. What about using
> DocBook to enhance searches? How about and OO database? What about
> indexing the document into a larger collection? I don't see any tools for
> these yet. I've got some ideas about how do to a couple of those, but
> they're kinda slow in taking shape.
Yes.
We already added a script, sgmldiff.pl, to compare the
markup of two SGML files, regardless of the text between the
tags. It's really precious for translations - now I even
wonder how we could have been living without it at KDE.
I have on the TODO list for docbook-utils list :
- conversion from legacy input formats (texinfo, linuxdoc,
...)
- wrapper for collateindex.pl.
- extraction of the contents of a given tag from command
line
(precious for <releaseinfo>, <keyword>, <date>, ...)
(more SGML-aware than a simple "grep")
It seems to rejoin pretty much what you are requesting ;-).
I already have people volunterring for the first two points,
and I might write the third one.
We just have set up a docbook-utils@bazar.conectiva.com.br
developers mailing list to accelerate the development.
--
Ãric Bischoff - mailto:ebisch@cybercable.tm.fr
__________________________________________________
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From: Eric Bischoff <ebisch@cybercable.tm.fr>
To: docbook-utils@bazar.conectiva.com.br,
docbook-tools-discuss@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: Getting indexes?
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 03:54:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <392BB577.AE72C36A@cybercable.tm.fr> (raw)
Message-ID: <20000524035400.-v5dWXxe_Sr4kKoo6hAjybf4mfYje1civSybaYC4yso@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A5F46F4ED18FD211ABEE00105AC6CF077F8114@email.cu-portland.edu>
Gregory Leblanc wrote:
>
> Well, recomendations on SGML just went out to the LSB this week (err, maybe
> before the weekend, I forget). Hopefully those will get things a bit more
> standardized.
Hopefully. I don't have any feedback yet.
> I don't use the output from my stuff too often, so I'm not
> sure how to resolve those issues. You can use LyX and export to Docbook,
> but I'm not sure how that works. I just noticed that DocBook 4.0 is
> official, guess it's time to move to XML. (As of DB4, XML is official)
Yes, and thanks to Norman Walsh, it comes with XSL style
sheets.
> I have to agree that the tools that do exist aren't very well put together
> to get you up and running (although with a bit of work, it's do-able).
We have spent some time on rewriting them in a new project
called "docbook-utils" that should if Mark accepts become
part of the DocBook tools. I am waiting for Mark Galassi's
green light to put them on the DocBook-tools FTP server at
Sourceware, along with a new "LSB-proposals-conformant"
packaging (which does, by the way, put collateindex.pl in
/usr/bin ;-) ).
> What's a MUCH bigger concern to me is the lack of tools to do anything
> except process the DocBook source into other formats. What about using
> DocBook to enhance searches? How about and OO database? What about
> indexing the document into a larger collection? I don't see any tools for
> these yet. I've got some ideas about how do to a couple of those, but
> they're kinda slow in taking shape.
Yes.
We already added a script, sgmldiff.pl, to compare the
markup of two SGML files, regardless of the text between the
tags. It's really precious for translations - now I even
wonder how we could have been living without it at KDE.
I have on the TODO list for docbook-utils list :
- conversion from legacy input formats (texinfo, linuxdoc,
...)
- wrapper for collateindex.pl.
- extraction of the contents of a given tag from command
line
(precious for <releaseinfo>, <keyword>, <date>, ...)
(more SGML-aware than a simple "grep")
It seems to rejoin pretty much what you are requesting ;-).
I already have people volunterring for the first two points,
and I might write the third one.
We just have set up a docbook-utils@bazar.conectiva.com.br
developers mailing list to accelerate the development.
--
Ãric Bischoff - mailto:ebisch@cybercable.tm.fr
__________________________________________________
\^o~_.
.~. ______ /( __ )
/V\ Toys story \__ \/ ( V
// \\ \__| (__=v
/( )\ |\___/ )
^^-^^ \_____( )
Tux Konqui \__=v
__________________________________________________
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2000-12-27 6:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-12-27 6:36 Gregory Leblanc
2000-05-23 22:13 ` Gregory Leblanc
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric Bischoff [this message]
2000-05-24 3:54 ` Eric Bischoff
2000-12-27 6:36 Gregory Leblanc
2000-05-23 16:52 ` Gregory Leblanc
2000-12-27 6:36 Gregory Leblanc
2000-05-23 16:56 ` Gregory Leblanc
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-05-23 21:12 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27 6:36 Eric Lee Green
2000-05-23 15:38 ` Eric Lee Green
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