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From: Rutger Hofman <rutger@cs.vu.nl>
To: Jonathan Larmour <jifl@jifvik.org>
Cc: "Jürgen Lambrecht" <J.Lambrecht@televic.com>,
	"Ross Younger" <wry@ecoscentric.com>,
	"eCos developers" <ecos-devel@ecos.sourceware.org>,
	"Deroo Stijn" <S.Deroo@televic.com>
Subject: Re: NAND technical review
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:59:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AD47ADE.9010606@cs.vu.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AD3E92E.5020301@jifvik.org>

Jonathan Larmour wrote:
[snip]
>> We also prefer R's model of course because we started with R's model 
>> and use it now.
> 
> You haven't done any profiling by any luck have you? Or code size 
> analysis? Although I haven't got into the detail of R's version yet 
> (since I was starting with dissecting E's), both the footprint and the 
> cumulative function call and indirection time overhead are concerns of 
> mine.

In a first step in mitigating the 'footprint pressure', I have added CDL 
options to configure in/out support for the various chips types, to wit: 
- ONFI chips;
- 'regular' large-page chips;
- 'regular' small-page chips.
It is in r678 on my download page 
(http://www.cs.vu.nl/~rutger/software/ecos/nand-flash/). As I had 
suggested before, this was a very small refactoring (although code has 
moved about in io_nand_chip.c to save on the number of #ifdefs).

One more candidate for a reduce in code footprint: I can add a CDL 
option to configure out support for heterogeneous controllers/chips. The 
ANC layer will become paper-thin then. If this change will make any 
difference, I will do it within, say, a week's time.

As regards the concerns for (indirect) function call overhead: my 
intuition is that the NAND operations themselves (page read, page write, 
block erase) will dominate. It takes 200..500us only to transfer a page 
over the data bus to the NAND chip; one recent data sheet mentions 
program time 200us, erase time 1.5ms. I think only a very slow CPU would 
show the overhead of less than 10 indirect function calls.

Rutger

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-13 12:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-02 15:51 Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-06 13:51 ` Ross Younger
2009-10-07  3:12   ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-07 16:22     ` Rutger Hofman
2009-10-08  7:15       ` Jürgen Lambrecht
2009-10-15  3:53         ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-15 11:54           ` Jürgen Lambrecht
2009-10-15  3:49       ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-15 14:36         ` Rutger Hofman
2009-10-16  1:32           ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-19  9:56             ` Ross Younger
2009-10-19 14:21             ` Rutger Hofman
2009-10-20  3:21               ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-20 12:19                 ` Rutger Hofman
2009-10-21  1:45                   ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-21 12:15                     ` Rutger Hofman
2009-10-23 14:06                       ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-23 15:25                         ` Rutger Hofman
2009-10-23 18:03                           ` Rutger Hofman
2009-10-27 20:02                           ` Rutger Hofman
2009-11-10  7:03                           ` Jonathan Larmour
2010-12-11 19:18                             ` John Dallaway
2010-12-22 14:54                               ` Rutger Hofman
2009-10-15 15:43         ` Rutger Hofman
     [not found]     ` <4ACDF868.7050706@ecoscentric.com>
2009-10-09  8:27       ` Ross Younger
2009-10-13  2:21         ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-13 13:35           ` Rutger Hofman
2009-10-16  4:04             ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-19 14:51               ` Rutger Hofman
2009-10-20  4:28                 ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-07  9:40   ` Jürgen Lambrecht
2009-10-07 16:27     ` Rutger Hofman
2009-10-13  2:44     ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-13  6:35       ` Jürgen Lambrecht
2009-10-15  3:55         ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-13 12:59       ` Rutger Hofman [this message]
2009-10-15  4:41         ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-15 14:55           ` Rutger Hofman
2009-10-16  1:45             ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-19 10:53           ` Ross Younger
2009-10-20  1:40             ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-20 10:17               ` Ross Younger
2009-10-21  2:06                 ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-22 10:05                   ` Ross Younger
2009-11-10  5:15                     ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-11-10 10:38                       ` Ross Younger
2009-11-10 11:28                         ` Ethernet over SPI driver for ENC424J600 Ilija Stanislevik
2009-11-10 12:16                           ` Chris Holgate
2009-11-12 18:32                         ` NAND technical review Ross Younger
2009-10-13 14:19       ` Rutger Hofman
2009-10-13 19:58         ` Lambrecht Jürgen
2009-10-07 12:11   ` Rutger Hofman
2009-10-08 12:31     ` Ross Younger
2009-10-08  8:16   ` Jürgen Lambrecht
2009-10-12  1:13     ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-16  7:29 ` Simon Kallweit
2009-10-16 13:53   ` Jonathan Larmour
2009-10-19 15:02   ` Rutger Hofman

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