* export of openssl from US _is_ legal
@ 2004-01-13 16:42 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-01-13 16:50 ` Andrew Lunn
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From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton @ 2004-01-13 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ecos-maintainers
dear ecos maintainers,
your web site incorrectly says that the openssl port cannot be
hosted on a US server.
open source projects _can_ be exported from the US.
what you need to do is to inform the US government of _where_
the software can be obtained from.
you need to do some research in order to find out the exact details.
l.
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* Re: export of openssl from US _is_ legal
2004-01-13 16:42 export of openssl from US _is_ legal Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
@ 2004-01-13 16:50 ` Andrew Lunn
2004-01-13 16:55 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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From: Andrew Lunn @ 2004-01-13 16:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton; +Cc: ecos-maintainers
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 04:42:44PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> dear ecos maintainers,
>
> your web site incorrectly says that the openssl port cannot be
> hosted on a US server.
>
> open source projects _can_ be exported from the US.
>
> what you need to do is to inform the US government of _where_
> the software can be obtained from.
>
> you need to do some research in order to find out the exact details.
Sure, it can be done. The generic OpenSSL package does it, cygwin does
it. But as far as i know, its APITA to sort out.
Also, how long before the US government changes there mind and adds
new restrictions? Its safe to simply host is somewhere with more
freedom and avoid all this bother.
Andrew
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* Re: export of openssl from US _is_ legal
2004-01-13 16:50 ` Andrew Lunn
@ 2004-01-13 16:55 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-01-13 19:56 ` Jonathan Larmour
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From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton @ 2004-01-13 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Lunn; +Cc: ecos-maintainers
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 05:49:55PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 04:42:44PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> > dear ecos maintainers,
> >
> > your web site incorrectly says that the openssl port cannot be
> > hosted on a US server.
> >
> > open source projects _can_ be exported from the US.
> >
> > what you need to do is to inform the US government of _where_
> > the software can be obtained from.
> >
> > you need to do some research in order to find out the exact details.
>
> Sure, it can be done. The generic OpenSSL package does it, cygwin does
> it. But as far as i know, its APITA to sort out.
from what i understand, the notification - send an email - is
sufficient.
> Also, how long before the US government changes there mind and adds
> new restrictions?
cater for that by providing a non-us mirror?
> Its safe to simply host is somewhere with more
> freedom and avoid all this bother.
:)
good!
l.
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* Re: export of openssl from US _is_ legal
2004-01-13 16:55 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
@ 2004-01-13 19:56 ` Jonathan Larmour
2004-01-13 20:54 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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From: Jonathan Larmour @ 2004-01-13 19:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton; +Cc: ecos-maintainers
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 05:49:55PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>
>>On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 04:42:44PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>
>>>dear ecos maintainers,
>>>
>>>your web site incorrectly says that the openssl port cannot be
>>>hosted on a US server.
>>>
>>>open source projects _can_ be exported from the US.
>>>
>>>what you need to do is to inform the US government of _where_
>>>the software can be obtained from.
>>>
>>>you need to do some research in order to find out the exact details.
>>
>>Sure, it can be done. The generic OpenSSL package does it, cygwin does
>>it. But as far as i know, its APITA to sort out.
>
>
> from what i understand, the notification - send an email - is
> sufficient.
From our discussions with lawyers who claimed to be experts on this, it
unfortunately isn't that simple. It would be even harder to integrate it
into CVS due to the terms of the BAXA rules on notification, so it de
facto has to remain in an EPK anyway. Hosting it on a server outside the
US rather than inside the US doesn't really lose us anything.
>>Also, how long before the US government changes there mind and adds
>>new restrictions?
>
> cater for that by providing a non-us mirror?
Then people have to be told, links changed and invalidated, blahblah :-).
Jifl
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* Re: export of openssl from US _is_ legal
2004-01-13 19:56 ` Jonathan Larmour
@ 2004-01-13 20:54 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton @ 2004-01-13 20:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jonathan Larmour; +Cc: ecos-maintainers
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 07:56:39PM +0000, Jonathan Larmour wrote:
> >>it. But as far as i know, its APITA to sort out.
> >
> >
> > from what i understand, the notification - send an email - is
> > sufficient.
>
> From our discussions with lawyers who claimed to be experts on this, it
> unfortunately isn't that simple. It would be even harder to integrate it
> into CVS due to the terms of the BAXA rules on notification, so it de
> facto has to remain in an EPK anyway.
*wide-eyed* - oo.
pleased that you have access to lawyers!
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