From: Andrew Cagney <cagney@redhat.com>
To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
Cc: systemtap@sourceware.org, frysk <frysk@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: my notes from the tracing workshop
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:02:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47A8B28F.6010700@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <y0mprvgihu0.fsf@ton.toronto.redhat.com>
Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
>> [...]
>> "DB"
>> There was a strong consensus that the "internal" format of the log
>> data needed to be a fast light weight database; two vendors were using
>> sqlite for instance (TPTP the eclipse tool didn't but I suspect will
>> shortly). [...]
>>
>
> This seems rather wacky. If they're talking about gigabytes of trace
> traffic, a little wee in-memory database is a reach. If you need to
> do declarative querying, then you need a real database with indexes
> and whatnot. If you just need a big ass array, use BerkeleyDB. If
> you just want strongly typed flat data on disk, go XML. I wish I'd
> been there - perhaps my perceptions could have been falsified.
>
>
Right, SqLite is a little wee in-process database; it provides a
mechanism for powerful queries without the overhead of a server
implementation. Wind River presented performance numbers supporting the
approaches usability; in particular timing such as populating the
database from trace logs. While that cost is real, it is outweighed by
the benefit of being able to select arbitrary data-sets for visualization.
For system tap, provided the on-disk raw trace data format is well
defined, it will be possible to load it into SQL. BTW, while the
on-disk format could be XML, there was a general feeling that XML is
just too verbose and more compact formats intermediate forms were needed.
Can I recommend looking through the relevant slides.
>
>> [...] What's the status of SystemTAP on the ARM? [...]
>>
>
> I haven't run it personally, but others have (Eugene Teo for the Nokia
> N800). One difficulty appears to be finding a big enough ARM box to
> self-host the kernel module build process, or else cross-compiling and
> cross-running.
>
Cool, ARM support for libunwind is currently being integrated.
Andrew
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2008-02-01 19:44 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-02-05 19:02 ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
2008-02-01 16:37 Andrew Cagney
2008-02-01 22:15 ` Elena Zannoni
2008-02-05 20:37 ` William Cohen
2008-03-03 16:57 ` Andrew Cagney
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