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From: Matthias Kretz <m.kretz@gsi.de>
To: <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>, Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>
Cc: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: clarify semantics of vector bitwise shifts
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 11:03:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3125723.CQOukoFCf9@minbar> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83e84153-b9e4-ecc9-5b6c-58637f3c61e8@ispras.ru>

On Friday, 2 June 2023 09:49:26 CEST Alexander Monakov wrote:
> > simd<int> x = ...;
> > bool t = all_of(x < x + 1); // unconditionally true or not?
> > 
> > I'd expect t to be unconditionally true. Because simd<int> simply is a
> > data- parallel version of int.
> 
> Okay, I see opinions will vary here. I was thinking about our immintrin.h
> which is partially implemented in terms of generic vectors. Imagine we
> extend UBSan to trap on signed overflow for vector types. I expect that
> will blow up on existing code that uses Intel intrinsics.

_mm_add_epi32 is already implemented via __v4su addition (i.e. unsigned). So 
the intrinsic would continue to wrap on signed overflow.

> > > Revised patch below.
> > 
> > This can be considered a breaking change. Does it need a mention in the
> > release notes?
> 
> I'm not sure what you consider a breaking change here. Is that the implied
> threat to use undefinedness for range deduction and other optimizations?

Consider the stdx::simd implementation. It currently follows semantics of the 
builtin types. So simd<char> can be shifted by 30 without UB. The 
implementation of the shift operator depends on the current behavior, even if 
it is target-dependent. For PPC the simd implementation adds extra code to 
avoid the "UB". With nailing down shifts > sizeof(T) as UB this extra code now 
needs to be added for all targets.

- Matthias

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-02  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-24 16:28 Richard Biener
2023-05-24 18:36 ` Alexander Monakov
2023-05-25  6:50   ` Richard Biener
2023-05-25 10:46     ` Richard Biener
2023-05-30 14:49     ` Alexander Monakov
2023-05-31  7:12       ` Richard Biener
2023-06-01 18:25         ` Alexander Monakov
2023-06-02  7:07           ` Matthias Kretz
2023-06-02  7:49             ` Alexander Monakov
2023-06-02  9:03               ` Matthias Kretz [this message]
2023-06-02  9:24                 ` Alexander Monakov
2023-06-02  9:34                   ` Matthias Kretz
2023-06-02  9:36                   ` Richard Biener
2023-06-02  9:39           ` Richard Biener
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-05-24 12:53 Alexander Monakov
2023-05-24 13:21 ` Richard Biener
2023-05-24 14:21   ` Alexander Monakov

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