From: Matthias Kretz <m.kretz@gsi.de>
To: <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>, Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: clarify semantics of vector bitwise shifts
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 11:34:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3421397.Mh6RI2rZIc@minbar> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d720e893-2ed0-bf0e-ecab-3cfafa06c8c3@ispras.ru>
On Friday, 2 June 2023 11:24:23 CEST Alexander Monakov wrote:
> > > I'm not sure what you consider a breaking change here. Is that the
> > > implied
> > > threat to use undefinedness for range deduction and other optimizations?
> >
> > Consider the stdx::simd implementation. It currently follows semantics of
> > the builtin types. So simd<char> can be shifted by 30 without UB. The
> > implementation of the shift operator depends on the current behavior, even
> > if it is target-dependent. For PPC the simd implementation adds extra
> > code to avoid the "UB". With nailing down shifts > sizeof(T) as UB this
> > extra code now needs to be added for all targets.
>
> What does stdx::simd do on LLVM, where that has always been UB even on x86?
At this point Clang/LLVM support is best effort. I did not know before that
LLVM nailed this down as UB. Also my test suite didn't show any failures on
shifts IIRC (but that doesn't say anything about UB, I know).
FWIW, I'm okay with saying nothing in the release notes. It might just be that
some codes have become dependent on the existing (under-specified) behavior. 🤷
- Matthias
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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-24 16:28 Richard Biener
2023-05-24 18:36 ` Alexander Monakov
2023-05-25 6:50 ` Richard Biener
2023-05-25 10:46 ` Richard Biener
2023-05-30 14:49 ` Alexander Monakov
2023-05-31 7:12 ` Richard Biener
2023-06-01 18:25 ` Alexander Monakov
2023-06-02 7:07 ` Matthias Kretz
2023-06-02 7:49 ` Alexander Monakov
2023-06-02 9:03 ` Matthias Kretz
2023-06-02 9:24 ` Alexander Monakov
2023-06-02 9:34 ` Matthias Kretz [this message]
2023-06-02 9:36 ` Richard Biener
2023-06-02 9:39 ` Richard Biener
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2023-05-24 12:53 Alexander Monakov
2023-05-24 13:21 ` Richard Biener
2023-05-24 14:21 ` Alexander Monakov
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