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From: Jiufu Guo <guojiufu@linux.ibm.com>
To: Jiufu Guo via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Cc: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>,
	dje.gcc@gmail.com, linkw@gcc.gnu.org, jeffreyalaw@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] loading float member of parameter stored via int registers
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 22:16:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e8ritexu0.fsf@pike.rch.stglabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7ek02dft05.fsf@pike.rch.stglabs.ibm.com> (Jiufu Guo via Gcc-patches's message of "Tue, 27 Dec 2022 11:03:06 +0800")

Hi,

Jiufu Guo via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org> writes:
>
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 08:13:48PM +0100, Richard Biener wrote:
>>> > Am 23.12.2022 um 17:55 schrieb Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>:
>>> > There are at least six very different kinds of subreg:
>>> > 
>>> > 0) Lvalue subregs.  Most archs have no use for it, and it can be
>>> >   expressed much more clearly and cleanly always.
>>> > 1) Subregs of mem.  Do not use, deprecated.  When old reload goes away
>>> >   this will go away.
>>> > 2) Subregs of hard registers.  Do not use, there are much better ways to
>>> >   write subregs of a non-zero byte offset, and for zero offset this is
>>> >   non-canonical RTL.
>>> > 3) Bitcast subregs.  In principle they go from one mode to another mode
>>> >   of the same size (but read on).
>>> > 4) Paradoxical subregs.  A concept completely separate from the rest,
>>> >   different rules for everything, it has to be special cased almost
>>> >   everywhere, it would be better if it was a separate rtx_code imo.
>>> > 5) Finally, normal subregs, taking a contiguous span of bits from some
>>> >   value.
>>> > 
>>> > Now, it is invalid to have a subreg of a subreg, so a 3) of a 5) is
>>> > written as just one subreg, as you say.  And a 4) of a 5) is just
>>> > invalid afaics (and let's not talk about 0)..2) anymore :-) )
>>> > 
>>> >> Note whether targets actually support subreg operations needs to be queried and I’m not sure how subreg with offset validation should work there.
>>> > 
>>> > But 3) is always valid, no?  On pseudos
> I also has similar question: do we need to query/recog if "SF(SI#0)" is
> valid on the target, or it would always work (even through reload)?
> I also hit this during debugging on ppc64le: "SF(SI#0)" is valid,
> and "SF(DI#4)" is not valid. 
>>> 
>>> Yes, but it will eventually result in a spill/reload which is
>>> undesirable when we created this from CSE from a load.  So I think
>>> for CSE we do want to know whether a spill will definitely not
>>> occur.
>>
>> Does it cause reloads though?  On any sane backend?  If no movsf pattern
>> allows integer registers, can things work at all?
>>
>> Anyway, the normal way to test if some RTL is valid is to just generate
>> it (using validate_change) and then do apply_change_group, which then
>> cancels the changes if they do not work.  CSE already does some of
>> this.
> validate_change seems ok. Thanks!
>>
>> (I am doubtful doing any of this in CSE is a good idea fwiw).
> Understand your concern! Especially when we need to emit additional
> inns in CSE.
> While CSE does some similar work. It transforms
> "[sf:DI]=%x:DI; %y:DI=[sf:DI]" to "%y:DI=%x:DI".
> and "see if a MEM has already been loaded with a widening operation;
> if it has, we can use a subreg of that." (only for int modes).
> So, it may be acceptable to do this in CSE (maybe still seems
> hacking).

This maybe works for "DI to DF", because "mode converting
subreg:DF(x:DI,0)" is cheaper than "mem load DF([sf:DI])". Then
"y:DF=[sf:DI]" can be replaced by "y:DF=x:DI#0".

While for "subreg:SF(x:SI,0)", in CSE, it may not cheaper.
So, it may be doubtful for "convert DI to SF" in CSE.

Any comments or suggestions?


BR,
Jeff (Jiufu)

>
> Thanks for so great comments!
>
> BR,
> Jeff (Jiufu)
>
>>
>>
>> Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-27 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-21  6:27 Jiufu Guo
2022-12-21  7:30 ` Richard Biener
2022-12-22  7:25   ` guojiufu
2022-12-22  7:54     ` Richard Biener
2022-12-22  9:02       ` Jiufu Guo
2022-12-22 11:28         ` Richard Biener
2022-12-22 18:40           ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-23 12:23             ` Jiufu Guo
2022-12-23 12:36         ` Jiufu Guo
2022-12-23 14:45           ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-23 16:20             ` Richard Biener
2022-12-23 16:52               ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-23 19:13                 ` Richard Biener
2022-12-23 19:52                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-27  3:03                     ` Jiufu Guo
2022-12-27 14:16                       ` Jiufu Guo [this message]
2022-12-30  2:22                         ` Jiufu Guo
2022-12-30  7:44                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-30  8:30                             ` Andrew Pinski
2023-01-03  3:28                               ` Jiufu Guo
2023-01-03  8:59                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-01-03  9:10                                 ` Hu, Lin1
2022-12-27  2:15             ` Jiufu Guo

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