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From: Jiufu Guo <guojiufu@linux.ibm.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>,
	Jiufu Guo via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	dje.gcc@gmail.com, linkw@gcc.gnu.org, jeffreyalaw@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] loading float member of parameter stored via int registers
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 11:03:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7ek02dft05.fsf@pike.rch.stglabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221223195207.GB25951@gate.crashing.org> (Segher Boessenkool's message of "Fri, 23 Dec 2022 13:52:08 -0600")

Hi,

Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org> writes:

> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 08:13:48PM +0100, Richard Biener wrote:
>> > Am 23.12.2022 um 17:55 schrieb Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>:
>> > There are at least six very different kinds of subreg:
>> > 
>> > 0) Lvalue subregs.  Most archs have no use for it, and it can be
>> >   expressed much more clearly and cleanly always.
>> > 1) Subregs of mem.  Do not use, deprecated.  When old reload goes away
>> >   this will go away.
>> > 2) Subregs of hard registers.  Do not use, there are much better ways to
>> >   write subregs of a non-zero byte offset, and for zero offset this is
>> >   non-canonical RTL.
>> > 3) Bitcast subregs.  In principle they go from one mode to another mode
>> >   of the same size (but read on).
>> > 4) Paradoxical subregs.  A concept completely separate from the rest,
>> >   different rules for everything, it has to be special cased almost
>> >   everywhere, it would be better if it was a separate rtx_code imo.
>> > 5) Finally, normal subregs, taking a contiguous span of bits from some
>> >   value.
>> > 
>> > Now, it is invalid to have a subreg of a subreg, so a 3) of a 5) is
>> > written as just one subreg, as you say.  And a 4) of a 5) is just
>> > invalid afaics (and let's not talk about 0)..2) anymore :-) )
>> > 
>> >> Note whether targets actually support subreg operations needs to be queried and I’m not sure how subreg with offset validation should work there.
>> > 
>> > But 3) is always valid, no?  On pseudos
I also has similar question: do we need to query/recog if "SF(SI#0)" is
valid on the target, or it would always work (even through reload)?
I also hit this during debugging on ppc64le: "SF(SI#0)" is valid,
and "SF(DI#4)" is not valid. 
>> 
>> Yes, but it will eventually result in a spill/reload which is
>> undesirable when we created this from CSE from a load.  So I think
>> for CSE we do want to know whether a spill will definitely not
>> occur.
>
> Does it cause reloads though?  On any sane backend?  If no movsf pattern
> allows integer registers, can things work at all?
>
> Anyway, the normal way to test if some RTL is valid is to just generate
> it (using validate_change) and then do apply_change_group, which then
> cancels the changes if they do not work.  CSE already does some of
> this.
validate_change seems ok. Thanks!
>
> (I am doubtful doing any of this in CSE is a good idea fwiw).
Understand your concern! Especially when we need to emit additional
inns in CSE.
While CSE does some similar work. It transforms
"[sf:DI]=%x:DI; %y:DI=[sf:DI]" to "%y:DI=%x:DI".
and "see if a MEM has already been loaded with a widening operation;
if it has, we can use a subreg of that." (only for int modes).
So, it may be acceptable to do this in CSE (maybe still seems
hacking).

Thanks for so great comments!

BR,
Jeff (Jiufu)

>
>
> Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-27  3:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-21  6:27 Jiufu Guo
2022-12-21  7:30 ` Richard Biener
2022-12-22  7:25   ` guojiufu
2022-12-22  7:54     ` Richard Biener
2022-12-22  9:02       ` Jiufu Guo
2022-12-22 11:28         ` Richard Biener
2022-12-22 18:40           ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-23 12:23             ` Jiufu Guo
2022-12-23 12:36         ` Jiufu Guo
2022-12-23 14:45           ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-23 16:20             ` Richard Biener
2022-12-23 16:52               ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-23 19:13                 ` Richard Biener
2022-12-23 19:52                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-27  3:03                     ` Jiufu Guo [this message]
2022-12-27 14:16                       ` Jiufu Guo
2022-12-30  2:22                         ` Jiufu Guo
2022-12-30  7:44                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-30  8:30                             ` Andrew Pinski
2023-01-03  3:28                               ` Jiufu Guo
2023-01-03  8:59                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-01-03  9:10                                 ` Hu, Lin1
2022-12-27  2:15             ` Jiufu Guo

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