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From: Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] struct packed: Use gcc_struct on Windows
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 19:30:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2254fb64-63ee-99e4-15d7-24cd411836db@palves.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <835yjqmiip.fsf@gnu.org>

On 2022-07-21 7:23 p.m., Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
>> From: Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net>
>> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 19:15:17 +0100
>>
>>>> No.  The attribute only changes the layout of that particular structure.
>>>
>>> And we are 110% sure that structure will never be passed to any other
>>> code?
>>
>> What other code are you talking about?  struct packed is used in GDB's internal
>> structures.  Nothing outside GDB ever sees it.  GDB doesn't export a C api.
>> And if it did, we probably wouldn't use struct packed in exported structures.
> 
> If this is supposed to be based on our vigilance and manual prevention
> of exporting it, I think it's fragile and not very reliable.  If we
> forget or miss something, we get a subtly broken build.
> 

I'm sorry, but this isn't making a lot of sense.  If we ever exposed a public
C API, we'd have to be very careful with _all_ the types we expose, wrt to ABI stability.

>>>>> Can you tell why we must have the regular GCC layout of bitfields
>>>>> here?
>>>>
>>>> Because without it the struct won't really be packed.
>>>
>>> Can you tell why is that necessary?
> 
> Can you answer this question, please?

Yes, sorry, I missed it before.  I replied in another email.

> 
> What I'm actually asking is whether there's any alternative which
> would avoid overriding the defaults in this matter.
> 
>>> In any case, I'm very uneasy about changes that break ABI
>>> compatibility between parts of a program.
>>
>> But no ABI compatibility is broken.
> 
> But it could be, even if today it isn't.
> 

I could also write a ton of other bugs.  What concern is this?

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-21 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-21 15:21 [PATCH 0/3] struct packed and Windows ports (PR build/29373) Pedro Alves
2022-07-21 15:21 ` [PATCH 1/3] struct packed: Use gcc_struct on Windows Pedro Alves
2022-07-21 16:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 17:05     ` Pedro Alves
2022-07-21 17:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 18:15         ` Pedro Alves
2022-07-21 18:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 18:30             ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2022-07-21 18:45               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 18:57                 ` Pedro Alves
2022-07-21 18:18         ` Pedro Alves
2022-07-21 18:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 18:38             ` Pedro Alves
2022-07-21 15:21 ` [PATCH 2/3] struct packed: Unit tests and more operators Pedro Alves
2022-07-21 15:21 ` [PATCH 3/3] struct packed: Add fallback byte array implementation Pedro Alves
2022-07-25 14:58 ` [PATCH 0/3] struct packed and Windows ports (PR build/29373) Tom Tromey
2022-07-25 15:18   ` Pedro Alves

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