From: Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com>
To: Andrew Burgess <aburgess@redhat.com>,
Simon Marchi <simark@simark.ca>,
gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gdb: relax requirement for the map_failed stap probe to be present
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2022 08:27:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <610ebe6b-64d0-d0c9-f9da-9e1445d53d73@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sfi30zgy.fsf@redhat.com>
Hi Andrew,
This seems to have broken armhf on Ubuntu 22.04.
https://builder.sourceware.org/buildbot/#/builders/169/builds/1163
On 11/28/22 17:18, Andrew Burgess via Gdb-patches wrote:
>
> Thanks you all for your review feedback.
>
> I've now pushed this version of the patch (inc Pedro's suggested typo
> fix).
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
>
>
> Andrew Burgess <aburgess@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> Simon Marchi <simark@simark.ca> writes:
>>
>>> On 11/22/22 10:09, Andrew Burgess via Gdb-patches wrote:
>>>> From glibc 2.35 and later, the "map_failed" stap probe is no longer
>>>> included in glibc. The removal of the probe looks like an accident,
>>>> but it was caused by a glibc commit which meant that the "map_failed"
>>>> probe could no longer be reached; the compiler than helpfully
>>>> optimised out the probe.
>>>>
>>>> In GDB, in solib-svr4.c, we have a list of probes that we look for
>>>> related to the shared library loading detection. If any of these
>>>> probes are missing then GDB will fall back to the non-probe based
>>>> mechanism for detecting shared library loading. The "map_failed"
>>>> probe is include in the list of required probes.
>>>>
>>>> This means that on glibc 2.35 (or later) systems, GDB is going to
>>>> always fall back to the non-probes based mechanism for detecting
>>>> shared library loading.
>>>>
>>>> I raised a glibc bug to discuss this issue:
>>>>
>>>> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29818
>>>>
>>>> But, whatever the ultimate decision from the glibc team, given there
>>>> are version of glibc in the wild without the "map_failed" probe, we
>>>> probably should update GDB to handle this situation.
>>>>
>>>> The "map_failed" probe is already a little strange, very early
>>>> versions of glibc didn't include this probe, so, in some cases, if
>>>> this probe is missing GDB is happy to ignore it. In this commit I
>>>> just expand this logic to make the "map_failed" probe fully optional.
>>>>
>>>> With this commit in place, then, when using a glibc 2.35 or later
>>>> system, GDB will once again use the stap probes for shared library
>>>> detection.
>>>> ---
>>>> gdb/solib-svr4.c | 13 +++++++++----
>>>> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/gdb/solib-svr4.c b/gdb/solib-svr4.c
>>>> index 6acaf87960b..87cd06f251a 100644
>>>> --- a/gdb/solib-svr4.c
>>>> +++ b/gdb/solib-svr4.c
>>>> @@ -2205,10 +2205,15 @@ svr4_find_and_create_probe_breakpoints (svr4_info *info,
>>>>
>>>> probes[i] = find_probes_in_objfile (os->objfile, "rtld", name);
>>>>
>>>> - /* The "map_failed" probe did not exist in early
>>>> - versions of the probes code in which the probes'
>>>> - names were prefixed with "rtld_". */
>>>> - if (with_prefix && streq (name, "rtld_map_failed"))
>>>> + /* The "map_failed" probe did not exist in early versions of the
>>>> + probes code in which the probes' names were prefixed with
>>>> + "rtld_".
>>>> +
>>>> + Additionally, the "map_failed" probe was accidentally removed
>>>> + from glibc 2.35 and later, when changes in glibc meant the probe
>>>> + could no longer be reached. In this case the probe name doesn't
>>>> + have the "rtld_" prefix. */
>>>> + if (streq (probe_info[i].name, "map_failed"))
>>>> continue;
>>>>
>>>> /* Ensure at least one probe for the current name was found. */
>>>>
>>>> base-commit: 84f9fbe90e5429adb9dee68f04f44c92fa9e2345
>>>> --
>>>> 2.25.4
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I looked at this separately, and this was one of the fixes I considered.
>>>
>>> Another option was to make GDB not give up on the probes interface if
>>> failing to look up a probe whose action is DO_NOTHING. Probes with that
>>> action are not used by GDB for solib bookkeeping, but can be used to
>>> stop on solib events, with "set stop-on-solib-events". I was just
>>> worried if there was some cases where a probe would be missing, but the
>>> corresponding event could be caught if using the original interface. In
>>> that case, using the probes interface would be a regression. But it's
>>> probably not worth wondering about. If that happens it's just a bug
>>> that needs to be fixed. In the case we are looking at, if the
>>> map_failed probe gets optimized out, then surely the corresponding call
>>> to the r_brk function would also be optimized out.
>>
>> I also considered just ignoring any probe was (a) missing, and (b) had a
>> DO_NOTHING action. The reason I didn't post this patch was because, at
>> the time, my thinking was: if we don't care about any probe with a
>> DO_NOTHING action, why even look for those probes, why not just remove
>> them from the list?
>>
>> I think you've (partially) convinced me that the user might be
>> interested in seeing a stop at these probes even if GDB's action is
>> DO_NOTHING.
>>
>> I say partially above because GDB doesn't really do anything to tell the
>> user which probe we stopped at, e.g. was is "init_start", "map_start",
>> "map_failed", etc. The user might be able to figure it out from the
>> backtrace, but I still think it's not going to be trivial in all cases,
>> e.g. "map_start" and "map_failed" are both located in the same function,
>> so I think the user would need to lookup the probe address in the ELF,
>> then compare that to the stop address. Not impossible, but, I suspect,
>> the complexity is an indication that users are not doing this much.
>> Thus, I suspect, in reality, nobody really cares about the DO_NOTHING
>> probes.
>>
>> However, I think there is enough of a justification there for keeping
>> the probes in the list, and just skipping any DO_NOTHING probes that
>> don't exist.
>>
>> Below then, is an alternative patch. I don't have a strong preference
>> between this one, and the original[1], but I thought I'd post this for
>> discussion. If this is preferred then I can just merge this.
>>
>> [1] I'll also post an update to the original patch shortly that
>> addresses Lancelot's feedback.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andrew
>>
>> ---
>>
>> commit 11be1f25f446e68c23d0709cde46e32ff24b7eb9
>> Author: Andrew Burgess <aburgess@redhat.com>
>> Date: Tue Nov 22 12:45:56 2022 +0000
>>
>> gdb: relax requirement for the map_failed stap probe to be present
>>
>> From glibc 2.35 and later, the "map_failed" stap probe is no longer
>> included in glibc. The removal of the probe looks like an accident,
>> but it was caused by a glibc commit which meant that the "map_failed"
>> probe could no longer be reached; the compiler than helpfully
>> optimised out the probe.
>>
>> In GDB, in solib-svr4.c, we have a list of probes that we look for
>> related to the shared library loading detection. If any of these
>> probes are missing then GDB will fall back to the non-probe based
>> mechanism for detecting shared library loading. The "map_failed"
>> probe is include in the list of required probes.
>>
>> This means that on glibc 2.35 (or later) systems, GDB is going to
>> always fall back to the non-probes based mechanism for detecting
>> shared library loading.
>>
>> I raised a glibc bug to discuss this issue:
>>
>> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29818
>>
>> But, whatever the ultimate decision from the glibc team, given there
>> are version of glibc in the wild without the "map_failed" probe, we
>> probably should update GDB to handle this situation.
>>
>> The "map_failed" probe is already a little strange, very early
>> versions of glibc didn't include this probe, so, in some cases, if
>> this probe is missing GDB is happy to ignore it. This is fine, the
>> action associated with this probe inside GDB is DO_NOTHING, this means
>> the probe isn't actually required in order for GDB to correctly detect
>> the loading of shared libraries.
>>
>> In this commit I propose changing the rules so that any probe whose
>> action is DO_NOTHING, is optional.
>>
>> There is one possible downside to this change, and that concerns 'set
>> stop-on-solib-events on'. If a probe is removed from glibc, but the
>> old style breakpoint based mechanism is still in place within glibc
>> for that same event, then GDB will stop when using the old style
>> non-probe based mechanism, but not when using the probes based
>> mechanism.
>>
>> For the map_failed case this is not a problem, both the map_failed
>> probe, and the call to the old style breakpoint location were
>> optimised out, and so neither event (probes based, or breakpoint
>> based) will trigger. This would only become an issue if glibc removed
>> a probe, but left the breakpoint in place (this would almost certainly
>> be a bug in glibc).
>>
>> For now, I'm proposing that we just don't worry about this. Because
>> some probes have actions that are not DO_NOTHING, then we know the
>> user will always seem _some_ stops when a shared library is
>> loaded/unloaded, and (I'm guessing), in most cases, that's all they
>> care about. I figure when someone complains then we can figure out
>> what the right solution is then.
>>
>> With this commit in place, then, when using a glibc 2.35 or later
>> system, GDB will once again use the stap probes for shared library
>> detection.
>>
>> diff --git a/gdb/solib-svr4.c b/gdb/solib-svr4.c
>> index 6acaf87960b..10e446af908 100644
>> --- a/gdb/solib-svr4.c
>> +++ b/gdb/solib-svr4.c
>> @@ -2205,15 +2205,34 @@ svr4_find_and_create_probe_breakpoints (svr4_info *info,
>>
>> probes[i] = find_probes_in_objfile (os->objfile, "rtld", name);
>>
>> - /* The "map_failed" probe did not exist in early
>> - versions of the probes code in which the probes'
>> - names were prefixed with "rtld_". */
>> - if (with_prefix && streq (name, "rtld_map_failed"))
>> - continue;
>> -
>> /* Ensure at least one probe for the current name was found. */
>> if (probes[i].empty ())
>> - return false;
>> + {
>> + /* The "map_failed" probe did not exist in early versions of the
>> + probes code in which the probes' names were prefixed with
>> + "rtld_".
>> +
>> + Additionally, the "map_failed" probe was accidentally removed
>> + from glibc 2.35 and later, when changes in glibc meant the
>> + probe could no longer be reached, and the compiler optimized
>> + the probe away. In this case the probe name doesn't have the
>> + "rtld_" prefix.
>> +
>> + To handle this, and give GDB as much flexibility as possible,
>> + we make the rule that, if a probe isn't required for the
>> + correct operation of GDB (i.e. it's action is DO_NOTHING),
>> + then we will still use the probes interface, even if that
>> + probe is missing.
>> +
>> + The only (possible) downside of this is that, if the user has
>> + 'set stop-on-solib-events on' in effect, then they might get
>> + fewer events using the probes interface than with the classic
>> + non-probes interface. */
>> + if (prove_info[i].action == DO_NOTHING)
>> + continue;
>> + else
>> + return false;
>> + }
>>
>> /* Ensure probe arguments can be evaluated. */
>> for (probe *p : probes[i])
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-29 8:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-22 15:09 Andrew Burgess
2022-11-22 15:31 ` Simon Marchi
2022-11-24 10:46 ` Andrew Burgess
2022-11-24 15:10 ` Simon Marchi
2022-11-24 16:13 ` Lancelot SIX
2022-11-28 15:47 ` Pedro Alves
2022-11-28 17:18 ` Andrew Burgess
2022-11-29 8:27 ` Luis Machado [this message]
2022-11-29 8:38 ` Luis Machado
2022-12-05 10:09 ` Andrew Burgess
2022-12-05 10:27 ` Luis Machado
2022-12-05 12:04 ` Andrew Burgess
2022-12-05 12:55 ` Luis Machado
2022-11-22 15:33 ` Lancelot SIX
2022-11-24 11:39 ` Andrew Burgess
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