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From: Andrew Burgess <aburgess@redhat.com>
To: Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com>,
	Simon Marchi <simark@simark.ca>,
	gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gdb: relax requirement for the map_failed stap probe to be present
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2022 10:09:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mt8240w8.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc3f19bf-c455-7c9c-cee5-6bf484d76e6f@arm.com>

Luis Machado <luis.machado@arm.com> writes:

> On 11/29/22 08:27, Luis Machado wrote:
>> Hi Andrew,
>> 
>> This seems to have broken armhf on Ubuntu 22.04.
>> 
>> https://builder.sourceware.org/buildbot/#/builders/169/builds/1163
>> 
>
> I haven't investigated this. I only spotted it in the sourceware buildbot page. But I'd guess it is something to do
> with thumb mode detection early in the startup.
>
> Ubuntu has moved to not stripping ld.so for armhf because the probe mechanism is not capable of conveying the thumb mode
> information, so gdb has to rely on symbols instead. If the changes have touched this fragile area, it may have broken the
> delicate balance.

I somehow missed this last week.  I'll take a look today.

Sorry for the breakage.

Andrew


>
>
>> On 11/28/22 17:18, Andrew Burgess via Gdb-patches wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks you all for your review feedback.
>>>
>>> I've now pushed this version of the patch (inc Pedro's suggested typo
>>> fix).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Burgess <aburgess@redhat.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Simon Marchi <simark@simark.ca> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/22/22 10:09, Andrew Burgess via Gdb-patches wrote:
>>>>>>  From glibc 2.35 and later, the "map_failed" stap probe is no longer
>>>>>> included in glibc.  The removal of the probe looks like an accident,
>>>>>> but it was caused by a glibc commit which meant that the "map_failed"
>>>>>> probe could no longer be reached; the compiler than helpfully
>>>>>> optimised out the probe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In GDB, in solib-svr4.c, we have a list of probes that we look for
>>>>>> related to the shared library loading detection.  If any of these
>>>>>> probes are missing then GDB will fall back to the non-probe based
>>>>>> mechanism for detecting shared library loading.  The "map_failed"
>>>>>> probe is include in the list of required probes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This means that on glibc 2.35 (or later) systems, GDB is going to
>>>>>> always fall back to the non-probes based mechanism for detecting
>>>>>> shared library loading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I raised a glibc bug to discuss this issue:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29818
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, whatever the ultimate decision from the glibc team, given there
>>>>>> are version of glibc in the wild without the "map_failed" probe, we
>>>>>> probably should update GDB to handle this situation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The "map_failed" probe is already a little strange, very early
>>>>>> versions of glibc didn't include this probe, so, in some cases, if
>>>>>> this probe is missing GDB is happy to ignore it.  In this commit I
>>>>>> just expand this logic to make the "map_failed" probe fully optional.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With this commit in place, then, when using a glibc 2.35 or later
>>>>>> system, GDB will once again use the stap probes for shared library
>>>>>> detection.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>   gdb/solib-svr4.c | 13 +++++++++----
>>>>>>   1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/gdb/solib-svr4.c b/gdb/solib-svr4.c
>>>>>> index 6acaf87960b..87cd06f251a 100644
>>>>>> --- a/gdb/solib-svr4.c
>>>>>> +++ b/gdb/solib-svr4.c
>>>>>> @@ -2205,10 +2205,15 @@ svr4_find_and_create_probe_breakpoints (svr4_info *info,
>>>>>>         probes[i] = find_probes_in_objfile (os->objfile, "rtld", name);
>>>>>> -      /* The "map_failed" probe did not exist in early
>>>>>> -     versions of the probes code in which the probes'
>>>>>> -     names were prefixed with "rtld_".  */
>>>>>> -      if (with_prefix && streq (name, "rtld_map_failed"))
>>>>>> +      /* The "map_failed" probe did not exist in early versions of the
>>>>>> +     probes code in which the probes' names were prefixed with
>>>>>> +     "rtld_".
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +     Additionally, the "map_failed" probe was accidentally removed
>>>>>> +     from glibc 2.35 and later, when changes in glibc meant the probe
>>>>>> +     could no longer be reached.  In this case the probe name doesn't
>>>>>> +     have the "rtld_" prefix.  */
>>>>>> +      if (streq (probe_info[i].name, "map_failed"))
>>>>>>       continue;
>>>>>>         /* Ensure at least one probe for the current name was found.  */
>>>>>>
>>>>>> base-commit: 84f9fbe90e5429adb9dee68f04f44c92fa9e2345
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> 2.25.4
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked at this separately, and this was one of the fixes I considered.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another option was to make GDB not give up on the probes interface if
>>>>> failing to look up a probe whose action is DO_NOTHING.  Probes with that
>>>>> action are not used by GDB for solib bookkeeping, but can be used to
>>>>> stop on solib events, with "set stop-on-solib-events".  I was just
>>>>> worried if there was some cases where a probe would be missing, but the
>>>>> corresponding event could be caught if using the original interface.  In
>>>>> that case, using the probes interface would be a regression.  But it's
>>>>> probably not worth wondering about.  If that happens it's just a bug
>>>>> that needs to be fixed.  In the case we are looking at, if the
>>>>> map_failed probe gets optimized out, then surely the corresponding call
>>>>> to the r_brk function would also be optimized out.
>>>>
>>>> I also considered just ignoring any probe was (a) missing, and (b) had a
>>>> DO_NOTHING action.  The reason I didn't post this patch was because, at
>>>> the time, my thinking was: if we don't care about any probe with a
>>>> DO_NOTHING action, why even look for those probes, why not just remove
>>>> them from the list?
>>>>
>>>> I think you've (partially) convinced me that the user might be
>>>> interested in seeing a stop at these probes even if GDB's action is
>>>> DO_NOTHING.
>>>>
>>>> I say partially above because GDB doesn't really do anything to tell the
>>>> user which probe we stopped at, e.g. was is "init_start", "map_start",
>>>> "map_failed", etc.  The user might be able to figure it out from the
>>>> backtrace, but I still think it's not going to be trivial in all cases,
>>>> e.g. "map_start" and "map_failed" are both located in the same function,
>>>> so I think the user would need to lookup the probe address in the ELF,
>>>> then compare that to the stop address.  Not impossible, but, I suspect,
>>>> the complexity is an indication that users are not doing this much.
>>>> Thus, I suspect, in reality, nobody really cares about the DO_NOTHING
>>>> probes.
>>>>
>>>> However, I think there is enough of a justification there for keeping
>>>> the probes in the list, and just skipping any DO_NOTHING probes that
>>>> don't exist.
>>>>
>>>> Below then, is an alternative patch.  I don't have a strong preference
>>>> between this one, and the original[1], but I thought I'd post this for
>>>> discussion.  If this is preferred then I can just merge this.
>>>>
>>>> [1] I'll also post an update to the original patch shortly that
>>>> addresses Lancelot's feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> commit 11be1f25f446e68c23d0709cde46e32ff24b7eb9
>>>> Author: Andrew Burgess <aburgess@redhat.com>
>>>> Date:   Tue Nov 22 12:45:56 2022 +0000
>>>>
>>>>      gdb: relax requirement for the map_failed stap probe to be present
>>>>      From glibc 2.35 and later, the "map_failed" stap probe is no longer
>>>>      included in glibc.  The removal of the probe looks like an accident,
>>>>      but it was caused by a glibc commit which meant that the "map_failed"
>>>>      probe could no longer be reached; the compiler than helpfully
>>>>      optimised out the probe.
>>>>      In GDB, in solib-svr4.c, we have a list of probes that we look for
>>>>      related to the shared library loading detection.  If any of these
>>>>      probes are missing then GDB will fall back to the non-probe based
>>>>      mechanism for detecting shared library loading.  The "map_failed"
>>>>      probe is include in the list of required probes.
>>>>      This means that on glibc 2.35 (or later) systems, GDB is going to
>>>>      always fall back to the non-probes based mechanism for detecting
>>>>      shared library loading.
>>>>      I raised a glibc bug to discuss this issue:
>>>>        https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29818
>>>>      But, whatever the ultimate decision from the glibc team, given there
>>>>      are version of glibc in the wild without the "map_failed" probe, we
>>>>      probably should update GDB to handle this situation.
>>>>      The "map_failed" probe is already a little strange, very early
>>>>      versions of glibc didn't include this probe, so, in some cases, if
>>>>      this probe is missing GDB is happy to ignore it.  This is fine, the
>>>>      action associated with this probe inside GDB is DO_NOTHING, this means
>>>>      the probe isn't actually required in order for GDB to correctly detect
>>>>      the loading of shared libraries.
>>>>      In this commit I propose changing the rules so that any probe whose
>>>>      action is DO_NOTHING, is optional.
>>>>      There is one possible downside to this change, and that concerns 'set
>>>>      stop-on-solib-events on'.  If a probe is removed from glibc, but the
>>>>      old style breakpoint based mechanism is still in place within glibc
>>>>      for that same event, then GDB will stop when using the old style
>>>>      non-probe based mechanism, but not when using the probes based
>>>>      mechanism.
>>>>      For the map_failed case this is not a problem, both the map_failed
>>>>      probe, and the call to the old style breakpoint location were
>>>>      optimised out, and so neither event (probes based, or breakpoint
>>>>      based) will trigger.  This would only become an issue if glibc removed
>>>>      a probe, but left the breakpoint in place (this would almost certainly
>>>>      be a bug in glibc).
>>>>      For now, I'm proposing that we just don't worry about this.  Because
>>>>      some probes have actions that are not DO_NOTHING, then we know the
>>>>      user will always seem _some_ stops when a shared library is
>>>>      loaded/unloaded, and (I'm guessing), in most cases, that's all they
>>>>      care about.  I figure when someone complains then we can figure out
>>>>      what the right solution is then.
>>>>      With this commit in place, then, when using a glibc 2.35 or later
>>>>      system, GDB will once again use the stap probes for shared library
>>>>      detection.
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/gdb/solib-svr4.c b/gdb/solib-svr4.c
>>>> index 6acaf87960b..10e446af908 100644
>>>> --- a/gdb/solib-svr4.c
>>>> +++ b/gdb/solib-svr4.c
>>>> @@ -2205,15 +2205,34 @@ svr4_find_and_create_probe_breakpoints (svr4_info *info,
>>>>         probes[i] = find_probes_in_objfile (os->objfile, "rtld", name);
>>>> -      /* The "map_failed" probe did not exist in early
>>>> -     versions of the probes code in which the probes'
>>>> -     names were prefixed with "rtld_".  */
>>>> -      if (with_prefix && streq (name, "rtld_map_failed"))
>>>> -    continue;
>>>> -
>>>>         /* Ensure at least one probe for the current name was found.  */
>>>>         if (probes[i].empty ())
>>>> -    return false;
>>>> +    {
>>>> +      /* The "map_failed" probe did not exist in early versions of the
>>>> +         probes code in which the probes' names were prefixed with
>>>> +         "rtld_".
>>>> +
>>>> +         Additionally, the "map_failed" probe was accidentally removed
>>>> +         from glibc 2.35 and later, when changes in glibc meant the
>>>> +         probe could no longer be reached, and the compiler optimized
>>>> +         the probe away.  In this case the probe name doesn't have the
>>>> +         "rtld_" prefix.
>>>> +
>>>> +         To handle this, and give GDB as much flexibility as possible,
>>>> +         we make the rule that, if a probe isn't required for the
>>>> +         correct operation of GDB (i.e. it's action is DO_NOTHING),
>>>> +         then we will still use the probes interface, even if that
>>>> +         probe is missing.
>>>> +
>>>> +         The only (possible) downside of this is that, if the user has
>>>> +         'set stop-on-solib-events on' in effect, then they might get
>>>> +         fewer events using the probes interface than with the classic
>>>> +         non-probes interface.  */
>>>> +      if (prove_info[i].action == DO_NOTHING)
>>>> +        continue;
>>>> +      else
>>>> +        return false;
>>>> +    }
>>>>         /* Ensure probe arguments can be evaluated.  */
>>>>         for (probe *p : probes[i])
>>>
>> 


  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-05 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-22 15:09 Andrew Burgess
2022-11-22 15:31 ` Simon Marchi
2022-11-24 10:46   ` Andrew Burgess
2022-11-24 15:10     ` Simon Marchi
2022-11-24 16:13     ` Lancelot SIX
2022-11-28 15:47     ` Pedro Alves
2022-11-28 17:18     ` Andrew Burgess
2022-11-29  8:27       ` Luis Machado
2022-11-29  8:38         ` Luis Machado
2022-12-05 10:09           ` Andrew Burgess [this message]
2022-12-05 10:27             ` Luis Machado
2022-12-05 12:04               ` Andrew Burgess
2022-12-05 12:55                 ` Luis Machado
2022-11-22 15:33 ` Lancelot SIX
2022-11-24 11:39   ` Andrew Burgess

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