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From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Ian Lance Taylor <ian@airs.com>,
	michsnyd@cisco.com, gdb@sources.redhat.com, shebs@apple.com
Subject: Re: Using reverse execution
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 04:03:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050921040154.GA7040@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <u4q8fhywx.fsf@gnu.org>

On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 06:39:42AM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Cc: gdb@sources.redhat.com, shebs@apple.com
> > From: Ian Lance Taylor <ian@airs.com>
> > Date: 20 Sep 2005 16:13:55 -0700
> > 
> > There is probably some cool use for which tracepoints are the
> > obvious right answer, but I don't know what it is.
> 
> In native debugging, tracepoints would be very useful to debug a
> real-time program, or, more generally, a program where timing issues
> are crucial to its correct operation.  With such programs, normal GDB
> usage disrupts the program operation and might even cause the program
> to fail in ways that are unrelated to the bug you are looking for.

Yes - and I've definitely tried to debug programs using GDB where this
would have been helpful.  E.G. when working on the MIPS port of NPTL.
I ended up doing the manual equivalent using printf, but printf can
actually be much higher overhead than in-memory tracepointing, and
recompiling libc every time I needed to change the debugging output got
to be a bit of a drag.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz
CodeSourcery, LLC

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-21  4:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-20 22:56 Michael Snyder
2005-09-20 23:14 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-09-21  3:40   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-21  4:00     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-09-21 17:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-21 20:37       ` Michael Snyder
2005-09-24  0:46         ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-24  1:10           ` Michael Snyder
2005-09-24 10:05           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-27 22:00           ` Jim Blandy
2005-09-21  4:03     ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2005-09-21 16:56 ` Paul Gilliam
2005-09-23 23:44 ` Stan Shebs
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-20 23:11 Michael Snyder
2005-09-24  0:07 ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-20 22:47 Michael Snyder
2005-09-13  1:17 Stan Shebs
2005-09-13  3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-14  0:36   ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-14  3:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-14 22:34       ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-15  3:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-15  5:36           ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-15 15:14             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-15 18:02               ` Jason Molenda
2005-09-15 20:12                 ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-16 10:42                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-16 14:00                     ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-16 16:22                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-16 18:03                         ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-16 20:50                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-23 23:20                             ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-16 17:50                       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-09-16 10:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-13 18:11 ` Min Xu (Hsu)
2005-09-13 22:01   ` Jim Blandy
2005-09-14  0:42     ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-16 12:03 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan

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