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From: Michael Snyder <michsnyd@cisco.com>
To: Ian Lance Taylor <ian@airs.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, gdb@sources.redhat.com, shebs@apple.com
Subject: Re: Using reverse execution
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:37:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4331C468.3080204@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3u0gf2hq9.fsf@gossamer.airs.com>

Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> 
>>>Cc: gdb@sources.redhat.com, shebs@apple.com
>>>From: Ian Lance Taylor <ian@airs.com>
>>>Date: 20 Sep 2005 16:13:55 -0700
>>>
>>>There is probably some cool use for which tracepoints are the
>>>obvious right answer, but I don't know what it is.
>>
>>In native debugging, tracepoints would be very useful to debug a
>>real-time program, or, more generally, a program where timing issues
>>are crucial to its correct operation.  With such programs, normal GDB
>>usage disrupts the program operation and might even cause the program
>>to fail in ways that are unrelated to the bug you are looking for.
> 
> 
> I get that that is the idea, it's just that I wouldn't tackle that
> problem that way.  I would put a logging framework in the program
> itself.  That's how I've debugged this sort of issue in the past, and
> the logging framework generally pays off for itself over time.

That's what tracepoint debugging is, Ian -- it's a re-usable
logging framework.  It just frees you up from having to write
that logging code over and over into different projects, and
recompile your project whenever you want to log something
different.

Well, that and a way-cool interactive data review and
presentation mode.   ;-)

But let's not highjack this thread to talk about tracepoints,
unles it's to compare their use and utility to reverse execution.

Michael

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-21 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-20 22:56 Michael Snyder
2005-09-20 23:14 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-09-21  3:40   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-21  4:00     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-09-21 17:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-21 20:37       ` Michael Snyder [this message]
2005-09-24  0:46         ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-24  1:10           ` Michael Snyder
2005-09-24 10:05           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-27 22:00           ` Jim Blandy
2005-09-21  4:03     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-09-21 16:56 ` Paul Gilliam
2005-09-23 23:44 ` Stan Shebs
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-20 23:11 Michael Snyder
2005-09-24  0:07 ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-20 22:47 Michael Snyder
2005-09-13  1:17 Stan Shebs
2005-09-13  3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-14  0:36   ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-14  3:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-14 22:34       ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-15  3:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-15  5:36           ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-15 15:14             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-15 18:02               ` Jason Molenda
2005-09-15 20:12                 ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-16 10:42                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-16 14:00                     ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-16 16:22                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-16 18:03                         ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-16 20:50                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-23 23:20                             ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-16 17:50                       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2005-09-16 10:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-09-13 18:11 ` Min Xu (Hsu)
2005-09-13 22:01   ` Jim Blandy
2005-09-14  0:42     ` Stan Shebs
2005-09-16 12:03 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan

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