[Bug libc/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[Bug libc/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[awreece at gmail dot com]

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[Bug libc/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[kirill at shutemov dot name]

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[Bug libc/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[aj at suse dot de]

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--- Comment #8 from Andreas Jaeger <aj at suse dot de> 2012-05-06 18:56:55 UTC ---
Still a issue in current git.

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[Bug libc/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[jackie.rosen at hushmail dot com]

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--- Comment #9 from Jackie Rosen <jackie.rosen at hushmail dot com> ---
*** Bug 260998 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Seen from the domain http://volichat.com
Page where seen: http://volichat.com/adult-chat-rooms
Marked for reference. Resolved as fixed @bugzilla.

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[Bug libc/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[schwab at sourceware dot org]

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[Bug libc/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[allachan at au1 dot ibm.com]

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--- Comment #10 from paxdiablo <allachan at au1 dot ibm.com> ---
Well, nothing in the doco
(http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/strfry.html) for strfry()
stated that all combinations would be equally likely. The only mention of
uniform distribution was that it was used to do the swaps themselves, not that
the results would be uniformly distributed.

In any case, when I make stir fry, it's rarely distributed perfectly. Having
said that, Ulrich probably spent more time complaining about the patch than it
would have taken to just put the damn thing in :-)

I have to go with Reuben here. If it's a joke, get rid of it, it has no place
in a serious piece of software. If not, we should be willing to accept patches
that make it better in some way, given any constraints from elsewhere (such as
time needed by maintainers to do it).

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[Bug libc/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[fweimer at redhat dot com]

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[Bug libc/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

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[Bug string/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[jsm28 at gcc dot gnu.org]

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[Bug string/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

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[Bug string/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[sam at gentoo dot org]

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[Bug string/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

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--- Comment #11 from Gabriel Ravier <gabravier at gmail dot com> ---
Isn't this fixed ? Looking at current source it appears to have a proper
Fisher-Yates shuffle for strfry now

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[Bug libc/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[rrt at sc3d dot org]

------- Additional Comments From rrt at sc3d dot org  2010-09-16 12:05 -------
This bug is apparently still not fixed. See:

http://www.eglibc.org/archives/patches/msg00646.html

which provides a patch.

Ulrich wrote, earlier in the thread:

> This function is a joke.  Don't you have better things to do?

The problem is that the function is not marked as a joke, and only its name (and
some elements of the description) is actually funny. The task that is does is
something reasonable to want to do, and it seems reasonably simple to provide a
good implementation, so why not? glibc is a high quality product, so let's make
the jokes high quality too!

If on the other hand the glibc maintainers do not consider this function to be
worth maintaining to the high standards of glibc, then please either remove it,
or remove its documentation, or mark it as "obsolete, do not use", which should
stop people both from using it and from reporting bugs.

Without any such action, it seems unreasonable to say that bug reports about
this function are wasting the maintainers' time.

memfrob is a much better example of how to make this type of joke: its much
simpler algorithm is obviously correct, as it has no statistical complexities,
and its man page explains that it's useless for encryption. Hence, no-one is
going to complain that it's bad for encryption, and no-one is going to find
implementation bugs.

In a library as high-profile and important as glibc, bad jokes are going to come
back and bite you just like other bad design decisions. If the maintainers don't
understand this, the joke, if there is one here, is very much on them.

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[Bug libc/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[pasky at suse dot cz]

------- Additional Comments From pasky at suse dot cz  2009-05-10 08:03 -------
Please do not reopen bugs spuriously, thank you.

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[Bug libc/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[me at evancarroll dot com]

------- Additional Comments From me at evancarroll dot com  2009-05-09 17:00 -------
(In reply to comment #3)
> Stop wasting people's time!  Nobody cares about this crap.  I made a last change
> but it's just too embarasing to even admit that.

Refusing someone else's better free code without reason? You're a dick. You--

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[Bug libc/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[drepper at redhat dot com]

------- Additional Comments From drepper at redhat dot com  2007-08-22 07:29 -------
Stop wasting people's time!  Nobody cares about this crap.  I made a last change
but it's just too embarasing to even admit that.

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[Bug libc/4403] strfry() gives skewed distributions

[aurelien at aurel32 dot net]

------- Additional Comments From aurelien at aurel32 dot net  2007-05-20 21:48 -------
Your version is still not right, as now some strings could not appear anymore.

For example for the string "abc" the strings "abc" and "acb" could never 
appear.

The version already attached to this bug report returns all cases with a 
correct distribution.

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