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From: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
To: hegdesmailbox@gmail.com, Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>,
	"H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
Cc: gnu-gabi@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: OSABI on Linux Distros
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 00:00:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cf375a3c-4ac8-2173-1c76-e741a2431754@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a7ffb9cb-b876-4165-71ca-a76a13b3255f@gmail.com>

On 06/11/2016 02:44 AM, Suprateeka R Hegde wrote:
> On 11-Jun-2016 02:52 AM, Roland McGrath wrote:
>>> What is the reason why we emit OSABI value as "UNIX - System V"
>>> (ELFOSABI_SYSV) even on GNU/Linux systems? Shouldn't it be just "GNU"
>>> (ELFOSABI_GNU)?
>>
>> In GNU systems the use of this field is specifically to indicate that
>> certain GNU extensions to ELF are used in the particular object.  In
>> particular, if any .dynsym entries use STT_GNU_IFUNC o STB_GNU_UNIQUE,
>> then e_ident[EI_OSABI] must be ELFOSABI_GNU.
> 
> OK. I understood this part. But then I did not know this set is
> partial. I thought use of *any* GNU specific extension should mark it
> as GNU OSABI.
> 
> For instance, GNU_RELRO, GNU_EH_FRAME, GNU_STACK, etc. Even with all
> these, it is still marked SYSV ABI.

I'm not as authoritative on this as Roland is, but in my opinion I expect
that because all three of these entries are optional they do not constitute
a change in the EI_OSABI.

You can ignore GNU_RELRO without any problem, you just won't have a
read-only segment after relocation.

You can ignore GNU_STACK without any problems, it's information
for the dynamic loader to set default stack permissions. When unset the
glibc dynamic loader will use sensible per-machine defaults, likewise
other implementations should also.

The GNU_EH_FRAME can be ignored if you're not using the GNU-based
unwinder which uses this PT_* entry to find .eh_frame_hdr.

Other dynamic linkers should ignore program header segments they don't
understand, and thus the above optionally processed entries should not
change the EI_OSABI.

> 1. Do we have a documented list of GNU extensions that are necessary
> to mark an ELF as GNU ABI?

Not that I am aware of. H.J. might better answer this question.

> 2. Why the list is partial? Why not all GNU extensions?

Only the required GNU extensions should mark EI_OSABI as ELFOSABI_GNU.

If you don't implement STT_GNU_IFUNC or STB_GNU_UNIQUE then things
actually fail.

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-13 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-01  0:00 Suprateeka R Hegde
2016-01-01  0:00 ` Roland McGrath
2016-01-01  0:00   ` Carlos O'Donell
2016-01-01  0:00     ` Suprateeka R Hegde
2016-01-01  0:00   ` Suprateeka R Hegde
2016-01-01  0:00     ` Carlos O'Donell [this message]
2016-01-01  0:00       ` Suprateeka R Hegde
2016-01-01  0:00         ` Carlos O'Donell
2016-01-01  0:00           ` Suprateeka R Hegde

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