* possible design weekness
@ 2007-03-09 13:58 Alxneit-Kamber Ivo
2007-03-12 21:26 ` Brian Gough
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From: Alxneit-Kamber Ivo @ 2007-03-09 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gsl-discuss
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Dear all
I have recently been bitten by what seems to be a design weekness in how
the functions (function to be minimized, or system of ODE's) are
defined. These function do not return a status value but the function
value. This prevents to easily notifiy the caller (iterate) of a failure
such as e.g. a domain error of one of its arguments or a failed
malloc().
The function used in the non-linear least squares fit, however is
implemented better as it returns a status value to the caller. Other
parts of the GSL library, multi-dimensional root finding or
one-dimensional minimization, e.g., take a slightly less optimal
aprroach. Here the caller (iterate) checks, if the function value or its
derivative, if applicable, is finite and issues an error otherwise.
I think it would be worthwhile (maybe for a version 2.0) to implement
a common definition for these functions like
status = f(double *result, 'arguments', (void*) parameters);
For a status different from 'GSL_SUCCESS' let the driver either take
care of the failure (this depends on the application/algorithm) or let
it fail propagating the status from the function to the user. Then the
user can handle the situation in his main loop.
I currently have no real idea how to prevent breaking of old user code
by implementing this new interface while keeping the old in place:
- for the 'GSL_XXX_EVAL_YYY' family of macros a simple wrapper would
do the job. (allways return GSL_SUCCESS for the old style or analyze
the result and then assign the status to be returned).
- the fact that the new interface has one more argument could probably
be handled by variable argument functions (never used these).
- how to deal with the fact that the new style function is of different
type (int instead of double)?
Comments or suggestions?
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Dr. Ivo Alxneit
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* Re: possible design weekness
2007-03-09 13:58 possible design weekness Alxneit-Kamber Ivo
@ 2007-03-12 21:26 ` Brian Gough
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From: Brian Gough @ 2007-03-12 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gsl-discuss
At Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:58:39 +0100,
Alxneit-Kamber Ivo wrote:
> I have recently been bitten by what seems to be a design weekness in how
> the functions (function to be minimized, or system of ODE's) are
> defined. These function do not return a status value but the function
> value. This prevents to easily notifiy the caller (iterate) of a failure
> such as e.g. a domain error of one of its arguments or a failed
> malloc().
Hello,
For a domain error the function can return NaN, and the driver routines
should handle this (if they don't we should fix them).
For those functions that return a double there is a tradeoff between
generality and convenience. As you point out, it is more general to
always return a status value, and the functions have been written from
the point of view that it is more convenient for the user to work with
functions that return a double, as for the standard library functions
- sin(x), log(x), etc.
Most of the time the functions do not do memory allocation or need to
signal other errors, apart from domain error, and it is convenient to
be able to write y=f(x).
I don't think there is any straightforward way to handle the two
possibilities in the same framework. What I had in mind was that NaN
be used as an error (additional information can be passed back through
the *params argument if needed) and that the routines should return
with GSL_FAILURE if they receive a NaN.
--
Brian Gough
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