From: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>
Cc: Diego Novillo <dnovillo@google.com>,
Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com>, Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com>,
gcc@gcc.gnu.org, java@gcc.gnu.org, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org,
java-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: PATCH RFA: Do not build java by default
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 03:58:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTim_bDuwPPOqWwkn_OiPc20DE=-hANL-i=T-BhsA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CCF8804.6020203@redhat.com>
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Jeff Law <law@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 11/01/10 12:16, Diego Novillo wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 15:09, Ian Lance Taylor<iant@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Comments? Approvals?
>>
>> FWIW, I agree with this patch for the same reasons stated by Ian.
>> Other than massively increasing build times, I have not seen
>> substantial benefits for having java enabled by default. Ada, on the
>> other hand, has shown more usefulness in exposing bugs (particularly,
>> middle end) and is many times faster.
>>
>> This is the kind of patch that requires more consensus or agreement
>> from the java maintainers. aph, are you dead set against disabling
>> java? Is there anything we could do to change your mind?
>
> Building libjava (at least for me) is primarily painful due to 2 files (the
> names escape me) and the rather poor coarse level parallelism (can't build
> the 32bit and 64bit multilibs in parallel for example).
>
> Has anyone looked at fixing the build machinery for libjava to make it more
> sensible?
>
> I'd personally prefer java over ada as I'm able to understand java code
> easier, thus when something does go wrong I'm able to debug it much faster.
>
FWIW, it takes about 33minutes to bootstap gcc trunk on Fedora 13/Intel
Core i7 870 with both 32bit and 64bit libraries. I configure gcc with
-enable-clocale=gnu --with-system-zlib --with-demangler-in-ld --enab
le-shared --enable-threads=posix --enable-haifa --prefix=/usr/gcc-4.6.0 --with-
local-prefix=/usr/local --with-fpmath=sse --with-plugin-ld=ld.gold --enable-gold
--with-fpmath=sse
--
H.J.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-02 3:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-31 19:09 Ian Lance Taylor
2010-11-01 8:59 ` Andrew Haley
2010-11-02 10:14 ` Laurent GUERBY
2010-11-02 15:32 ` Tom Tromey
2010-11-01 10:31 ` Dave Korn
2010-11-01 17:36 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-11-01 18:16 ` Diego Novillo
2010-11-01 18:58 ` Andrew Haley
2010-11-01 19:35 ` H.J. Lu
2010-11-02 3:39 ` Jeff Law
2010-11-02 3:58 ` H.J. Lu [this message]
2010-11-02 8:22 ` Eric Botcazou
2010-11-02 15:31 ` Tom Tromey
2010-11-02 16:25 ` Jeff Law
2010-11-02 5:12 ` Matthias Klose
2010-11-11 23:20 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-11-18 9:23 ` Mark Mitchell
2010-11-18 10:47 ` Andrew Haley
2010-11-18 13:42 ` H.J. Lu
2010-11-18 15:37 ` Mark Mitchell
2010-11-18 16:02 ` Diego Novillo
2010-11-18 15:23 ` Jeff Law
2010-11-18 17:19 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-11-18 17:58 ` Dave Korn
2010-11-18 20:53 ` Mark Wielaard
2010-10-31 19:33 Steven Bosscher
2010-10-31 19:47 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2010-11-01 3:48 ` Andrew Pinski
2010-11-01 10:11 ` Dave Korn
2010-11-01 4:06 ` Geert Bosch
2010-11-01 4:30 ` Joern Rennecke
2010-11-01 10:35 ` Geert Bosch
2010-11-01 10:46 ` Joern Rennecke
2010-11-02 10:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-11-02 16:43 ` David Daney
2010-11-01 17:46 ` Tom Tromey
2010-11-01 17:50 ` Andrew Haley
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