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From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>
To: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: UB status of snprintf on invalid ptr+size combination?
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 14:50:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230320135044.GB203866@cventin.lip.ens-lyon.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cb1d1ef7-5985-fdf1-fa1e-805da1eae294@gotplt.org>

On 2023-03-20 08:05:32 -0400, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
> I think on the glibc front it makes sense from a security
> perspective to interpret this through POSIX than the C standard.
> Even if the C standard is clarified to be contrary to POSIX and
> explicitly state that n is not the size of the buffer (which would
> be a terrible mistake IMO), I'd lean towards violating the C
> standard and conforming to POSIX instead.

I disagree about the POSIX behavior (assuming it is intentional).
With it, if the compiler detects that n is larger than the actual
buffer size, then due to undefined behavior, the compiler could
assume that this is dead code and introduce erratic behavior in
code written with the C standard in mind (or when it was introduced
in BSD).

Note that the printf(3) man page from FreeBSD 1.0 (1991), just says:

  Snprintf() and vsnprintf() will write at most size-1 of the
  characters printed into the output string (the size'th character
  then gets the terminating `\0'); if the return value is greater
  than or equal to the size argument, the string was too short and
  some of the printed characters were discarded.

Reference:
https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=snprintf&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+1.0-RELEASE&arch=default&format=html

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-20 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-14 19:47 Simon Chopin
2023-03-14 21:39 ` Paul Eggert
2023-03-15  9:22   ` Andreas Schwab
2023-03-15 15:54     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-03-15 18:34     ` Michael Hudson-Doyle
2023-03-19 14:45     ` manfred
2023-03-19 23:07       ` Vincent Lefevre
2023-03-20 12:05         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-03-20 12:17           ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-03-20 12:29             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-03-20 13:36             ` Vincent Lefevre
2023-03-20 13:50           ` Vincent Lefevre [this message]
2023-03-20 16:56             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-03-20 17:36               ` Vincent Lefevre
2023-03-20 15:09       ` Vincent Lefevre
2023-03-20 16:15         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-03-20 16:33           ` Vincent Lefevre
2023-03-20 17:00           ` Vincent Lefevre
2023-03-20 17:31             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-03-20 17:45               ` Vincent Lefevre
2023-03-15 12:39   ` Vincent Lefevre
2023-03-16 10:29     ` Stephan Bergmann
2023-03-18  2:07       ` Vincent Lefevre
2023-03-18  2:30         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-03-18 10:58           ` Vincent Lefevre
2023-03-18 15:01             ` Andreas Schwab
2023-03-19 22:48               ` Vincent Lefevre
2023-03-19 23:24                 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-03-20  4:10                   ` Vincent Lefevre
2023-03-20  9:19                     ` Andreas Schwab
2023-03-20 10:42                       ` Vincent Lefevre
2023-03-20 10:44                         ` Andreas Schwab

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