From: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Jonny Grant <jg@jguk.org>, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add example to rand.3
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 00:11:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3af45047-1d30-c4e8-cb73-a70eed6927fe@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <589afb02-2a34-7ad8-62cb-94bccc13033e@jguk.org>
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Hi Jonny,
On 12/27/22 22:37, Jonny Grant wrote:
> Hi Alex
>
> On 26/12/2022 22:29, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
>> Hi Jonny,
>>
>> On 12/26/22 22:50, Jonny Grant wrote:
>>> Hi Alejandro
>>
>> Please send also to my email.
>>
>>> Please find below a patch.
>>>
>>> 2022-12-26 Jonathan Grant <jg@jguk.org>
>>> * man3/rand.3: Add example to rand.3 seed with time(NULL)
>>>
>>>
>>> From 2d4501354ea6c465173fe6c089dfbcc80393a644 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>>> From: Jonathan Grant <jg@jguk.org>
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2022 21:48:17 +0000
>>> Subject: [PATCH] add rand.3 example
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jonathan Grant <jg@jguk.org>
>>
>> time(NULL) is not too good. If you call it several times per second, you'll find that it only changes the seed every second. There are better ways to produce a good seed.
>>
>> However, I prefer suggesting arc4random() rather than workarounding rand(3) to get good results.
>>
>> Florian, did you already merge arc4random() to glibc?
>
> Hopefully arc4random will come soon. Maybe rand.3 could then be updated to SEE ALSO that. >
> I would only mention to call srand once to seed, but you're right there are lots of other ways to get a seed.
> Jonny
But consider the following case:
You're testing some program with random data in a loop. And the program
executes in less than a second. Then srand(3) will be called several times per
second with the same seed, and you'll get useless results. I faced that exact
situation a few years ago :)
Cheers,
Alex
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Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2022-12-26 22:29 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-27 13:07 ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-12-27 23:33 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28 0:00 ` G. Branden Robinson
2022-12-28 0:41 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28 12:21 ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-12-30 18:15 ` Joseph Myers
2022-12-30 18:20 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-30 18:50 ` Joseph Myers
2022-12-30 18:58 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-30 19:11 ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-12-30 21:08 ` Joseph Myers
2022-12-30 21:15 ` Internal organization of "the implementation" (was: [PATCH] Add example to rand.3) Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-30 21:50 ` Joseph Myers
2022-12-27 21:37 ` [PATCH] Add example to rand.3 Jonny Grant
2022-12-27 23:11 ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2022-12-28 20:51 ` Jonny Grant
2022-12-28 20:56 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28 21:03 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28 21:04 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28 21:25 ` Jonny Grant
2022-12-28 21:32 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28 21:04 ` Cristian Rodríguez
2022-12-28 21:11 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-28 21:19 ` Jonny Grant
2022-12-28 21:18 ` Alejandro Colomar
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