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From: Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>
To: Zack Weinberg <zack@owlfolio.org>
Cc: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@gotplt.org>,
	 Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>,
	Xi Ruoyao <xry111@xry111.site>,
	 Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	 Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <teo.en.ming@protonmail.com>,
	 GNU libc development <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	 "ceo@teo-en-ming-corp.com" <ceo@teo-en-ming-corp.com>
Subject: Re: New GNU C Library (glibc) security flaw reported on 30 Jan 2024
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 22:55:25 +0300 (MSK)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4963e3ae-b0d5-d1d7-a986-5709d7a30bbb@ispras.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4d94a528-fe3f-413d-afa0-91a41f8371ff@app.fastmail.com>

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On Wed, 7 Feb 2024, Zack Weinberg wrote:

> >> and C2011 7.22.5p2 actually makes this a hard requirement: “The
> >> implementation shall ensure that both arguments [of the comparison
> >> function called by qsort] are pointers to elements of the array.”
> >> It looks to me like there are situations where our implementation
> >> doesn’t do this:
> >
> > I don't see that in the glibc source. Are you sure about that?
> 
> I was wrong about this; I misread the code in qsort.c.  Specifically,
> I missed that msort_with_tmp always merges *from* two subsets of the
> main array, *into* the temporary array, and then copies the result back
> to the main array.  Still, I think it is likely that some C libraries in
> the past have failed to implement this requirement (intentionally or not).
> In the attached patch I revised that suggestion again and I hope it satisfies
> everyone's expectations now.

I don't understand how that is likely: was it common to use merge sort for
implementation of qsort? For in-place sorting algorithms that mistake is
pretty much impossible to make.

In any case it seems unnecessary (and even impolite maybe, towards the authors
of those other C libraries) to make such implication in the Glibc manual.
It's much nicer to stick to the facts about Glibc itself.

(Glibc VCS briefly carried an implementation with such a mistake around 2002
when Roger Sayle's "Towers of Hanoi merge sort" was applied and then reverted)

Alexander

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-07 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-31 14:08 Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
2024-01-31 14:23 ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-01-31 14:55   ` Vincent Lefevre
2024-01-31 15:52     ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-01-31 16:23       ` Vincent Lefevre
2024-01-31 16:44         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2024-01-31 18:47       ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-02-01  0:51         ` Vincent Lefevre
2024-02-01  1:03           ` Vincent Lefevre
2024-02-01  6:41           ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-02-01  9:07             ` Vincent Lefevre
2024-02-01 19:55               ` Paul Eggert
2024-02-01 21:11                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2024-02-05  0:58                   ` Paul Eggert
2024-02-06 15:00                     ` Zack Weinberg
2024-02-06 21:30                       ` Paul Eggert
2024-02-06 22:04                         ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-02-07 17:07                         ` Zack Weinberg
2024-02-07 19:55                           ` Alexander Monakov [this message]
2024-02-07 20:45                             ` Zack Weinberg
2024-02-07 21:53                               ` Alexander Monakov
2024-02-07 22:56                               ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-06 17:17                           ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-08  8:28                             ` Florian Weimer
2024-04-22 14:39                               ` Zack Weinberg
2024-04-23 18:09                                 ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-23 18:26                                   ` Florian Weimer

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