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From: Noah Goldstein <goldstein.w.n@gmail.com>
To: Sajan Karumanchi <sajan.karumanchi@gmail.com>
Cc: premachandra.mallappa@amd.com, dj@redhat.com,
	hjl.tools@gmail.com,  libc-alpha@sourceware.org,
	carlos@systemhalted.org
Subject: Re:
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 10:58:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFUsyfK010-UYMYOdrc3tERCVxgv+is=1jevaoPx0rLNCo8v2g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230710052317.828308-1-sajan.karumanchi@amd.com>

On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 12:23 AM Sajan Karumanchi
<sajan.karumanchi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Noah,
> I verified your patches on the master branch that impacts the non-threshold
>  parameter on x86 CPUs. This patch modifies the non-temporal threshold value
> from 24MB(3/4th of L3$) to 8MB(1/4th of L3$) on ZEN4.
> From the Glibc benchmarks, we saw a significant performance drop ranging
> from 15% to 99% for size ranges of 8MB to 16MB.
> I also ran the new tool developed by you on all Zen architectures and the
> results conclude that 3/4th L3 size holds good on AMD CPUs.
> Hence the current patch degrades the performance of AMD CPUs.
> We strongly recommend marking this change to Intel CPUs only.
>

So it shouldn't actually go down. I think what is missing is:
```
get_common_cache_info (&shared, &shared_per_thread, &threads, core);
```

In the AMD case shared == shared_per_thread which shouldn't really
be the case.

The intended new calculation is: Total_L3_Size / Scale
as opposed to: (L3_Size / NThread) / Scale"

Before just going with default for AMD, maybe try out the following patch?

```
---
 sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h | 1 +
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)

diff --git a/sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h b/sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h
index c98fa57a7b..c1866ca898 100644
--- a/sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h
+++ b/sysdeps/x86/dl-cacheinfo.h
@@ -717,6 +717,7 @@ dl_init_cacheinfo (struct cpu_features *cpu_features)
       level3_cache_assoc = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL3_CACHE_ASSOC);
       level3_cache_linesize = handle_amd (_SC_LEVEL3_CACHE_LINESIZE);

+      get_common_cache_info (&shared, &shared_per_thread, &threads, core);
       if (shared <= 0)
         /* No shared L3 cache.  All we have is the L2 cache.  */
  shared = core;
-- 
2.34.1
```
> Thanks,
> Sajan K.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-10 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-24  5:03 [PATCH v1] x86: Increase `non_temporal_threshold` to roughly `sizeof_L3 / 2` Noah Goldstein
2023-04-24 18:09 ` H.J. Lu
2023-04-24 18:34   ` Noah Goldstein
2023-04-24 20:44     ` H.J. Lu
2023-04-24 22:30       ` Noah Goldstein
2023-04-24 22:30 ` [PATCH v2] " Noah Goldstein
2023-04-24 22:48   ` H.J. Lu
2023-04-25  2:05     ` Noah Goldstein
2023-04-25  2:55       ` H.J. Lu
2023-04-25  3:43         ` Noah Goldstein
2023-04-25  3:43 ` [PATCH v3] " Noah Goldstein
2023-04-25 17:42   ` H.J. Lu
2023-04-25 21:45     ` Noah Goldstein
2023-04-25 21:45 ` [PATCH v4] " Noah Goldstein
2023-04-26 15:59   ` H.J. Lu
2023-04-26 17:15     ` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-04  3:28       ` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-05 18:06         ` H.J. Lu
2023-05-09  3:14           ` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-09  3:13 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] x86: Increase `non_temporal_threshold` to roughly `sizeof_L3 / 4` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-09  3:13   ` [PATCH v5 2/3] x86: Refactor Intel `init_cpu_features` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-09 21:58     ` H.J. Lu
2023-05-10  0:33       ` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-09  3:13   ` [PATCH v5 3/3] x86: Make the divisor in setting `non_temporal_threshold` cpu specific Noah Goldstein
2023-05-10  0:33 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] x86: Increase `non_temporal_threshold` to roughly `sizeof_L3 / 4` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-10  0:33   ` [PATCH v6 2/4] x86: Refactor Intel `init_cpu_features` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-10 22:13     ` H.J. Lu
2023-05-10 23:17       ` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-11 21:36         ` H.J. Lu
2023-05-12  5:11           ` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-10  0:33   ` [PATCH v6 3/4] x86: Make the divisor in setting `non_temporal_threshold` cpu specific Noah Goldstein
2023-05-10  0:33   ` [PATCH v6 4/4] x86: Tune 'Saltwell' microarch the same was a 'Bonnell' Noah Goldstein
2023-05-10 22:04     ` H.J. Lu
2023-05-10 22:12       ` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-10 15:55   ` [PATCH v6 1/4] x86: Increase `non_temporal_threshold` to roughly `sizeof_L3 / 4` H.J. Lu
2023-05-10 16:07     ` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-10 22:12 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] x86: Refactor Intel `init_cpu_features` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-10 22:12   ` [PATCH v7 3/4] x86: Make the divisor in setting `non_temporal_threshold` cpu specific Noah Goldstein
2023-05-10 22:12   ` [PATCH v7 4/4] x86: Tune 'Saltwell' microarch the same was a 'Bonnell' Noah Goldstein
2023-05-12  5:12     ` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-12  5:10 ` [PATCH v8 1/3] x86: Increase `non_temporal_threshold` to roughly `sizeof_L3 / 4` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-12  5:10   ` [PATCH v8 2/3] x86: Refactor Intel `init_cpu_features` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-12 22:17     ` H.J. Lu
2023-05-13  5:18       ` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-12 22:03 ` [PATCH v8 3/3] x86: Make the divisor in setting `non_temporal_threshold` cpu specific Noah Goldstein
2023-05-13  5:19 ` [PATCH v9 1/3] x86: Increase `non_temporal_threshold` to roughly `sizeof_L3 / 4` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-13  5:19   ` [PATCH v9 2/3] x86: Refactor Intel `init_cpu_features` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-15 20:57     ` H.J. Lu
2023-05-26  3:34     ` DJ Delorie
2023-05-27 18:46       ` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-13  5:19   ` [PATCH v9 3/3] x86: Make the divisor in setting `non_temporal_threshold` cpu specific Noah Goldstein
2023-05-26  3:34     ` DJ Delorie
2023-05-27 18:46       ` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-15 18:29   ` [PATCH v9 1/3] x86: Increase `non_temporal_threshold` to roughly `sizeof_L3 / 4` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-17 12:00     ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-05-26  3:34   ` DJ Delorie
2023-05-27 18:46 ` [PATCH v10 " Noah Goldstein
2023-05-27 18:46   ` [PATCH v10 2/3] x86: Refactor Intel `init_cpu_features` Noah Goldstein
2023-05-27 18:46   ` [PATCH v10 3/3] x86: Make the divisor in setting `non_temporal_threshold` cpu specific Noah Goldstein
2023-05-31  2:33     ` DJ Delorie
2023-07-10  5:23     ` Sajan Karumanchi
2023-07-10 15:58       ` Noah Goldstein [this message]
2023-07-14  2:21         ` Noah Goldstein
2023-07-14  7:39         ` Re: sajan karumanchi
2023-06-07  0:15   ` [PATCH v10 1/3] x86: Increase `non_temporal_threshold` to roughly `sizeof_L3 / 4` Carlos O'Donell
2023-06-07 18:18     ` Noah Goldstein
2023-06-07 18:18 ` [PATCH v11 " Noah Goldstein
2023-06-07 18:18   ` [PATCH v11 2/3] x86: Refactor Intel `init_cpu_features` Noah Goldstein
2023-06-07 18:18   ` [PATCH v11 3/3] x86: Make the divisor in setting `non_temporal_threshold` cpu specific Noah Goldstein
2023-06-07 18:19   ` [PATCH v11 1/3] x86: Increase `non_temporal_threshold` to roughly `sizeof_L3 / 4` Noah Goldstein
2023-08-14 23:00   ` Noah Goldstein
2023-08-22 15:11     ` Noah Goldstein
2023-08-24 17:06       ` Noah Goldstein
2023-08-28 20:02         ` Noah Goldstein
2023-09-05 15:37           ` Noah Goldstein
2023-09-12  3:50             ` Noah Goldstein
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-01-13  5:41 father.dominic
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2021-06-07 16:02 ` André Almeida
     [not found] <1481545990-7247-1-git-send-email-adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
2016-12-19 18:18 ` Re: Adhemerval Zanella
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