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From: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
To: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
Cc: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dl: Use "adr" assembler command to get proper load address
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 10:05:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMe9rOrxDi3sxVtUz2XKDEtGtL2NvDmou5zRSzpuzzhc4FQ+zg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a94259a2-a929-397e-6b11-048f17a5f3ae@linaro.org>

On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 9:53 AM Adhemerval Zanella
<adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 07/10/2021 13:22, H.J. Lu wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 8:57 AM Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The 10/07/2021 07:29, H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 7:18 AM Adhemerval Zanella via Libc-alpha
> >>> <libc-alpha@sourceware.org> wrote:
> >>>> On 07/10/2021 07:00, Lukasz Majewski wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 11:19:26 +0200
> >>>>> Lukasz Majewski <lukma@denx.de> wrote:
> >>>>> And indeed it is the case. Yocto/OE by default perform prelinking (use
> >>>>> prelink program) to speedup start time of dynamic program.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The prelink [1] itself assigns some virtual addresses to all required
> >>>>> shared objects (in our case for /sbin/init), so no clashes are
> >>>>> encountered.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And using prelink is a _default_ behaviour in Yocto/OE poky distro.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does it work without prelink? Also, does it fail with prelink in real
> >>>> hardware?
> >>>>
> >>>> It indeed might be a prelink issue in fact.
> >>>
> >>> This will fail everywhere if prelink is used.
> >>
> >> i thought the point of prelinking is that the vaddr in
> >> the elf image is the runtime address so you don't have
> >> to process relative relocs or adjust pointers in the
> >> dynamic array with += l_addr at all (and then l_addr
> >> does not have to be correct, ld.so would still work).
> >>
> >> but here ld.so is loaded to some random offset on top
> >> of the static prelink offset. is this expected?
> >> does it make sense to prelink ld.so this way?
> >
> > ld.so is loaded by the kernel.  It makes no sense to
> > prelink ld.so.
> >
>
> The question is whether we consider this a regression or if
> we don't support it and instruct consumers to not do it.

I consider it a pilot error.  We can add a check in ld.so
to error out if it has been prelinked.

-- 
H.J.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-07 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-07 13:16 Lukasz Majewski
2021-09-07 16:49 ` Fangrui Song
2021-09-07 17:32   ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-09-07 17:44     ` Fangrui Song
2021-09-08 15:05       ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-09-08 17:41         ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-09-08 19:19         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-09-08 20:34           ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-09-09  7:18             ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-09-09  9:49               ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-09-10 10:10                 ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-09-17  8:29                   ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-09-17 13:27                     ` Joseph Myers
2021-09-17 16:17                       ` Andreas Schwab
2021-09-26 19:58                       ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-09-27 16:00                         ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-05  7:45       ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-06  7:57         ` Fangrui Song
2021-10-06  9:03           ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-06 11:43             ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-06 12:55               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-10-07  9:19                 ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-07 10:00                   ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-07 14:15                     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-10-07 14:58                       ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-07 14:16                     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-10-07 14:29                       ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-07 15:57                         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-10-07 16:22                           ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-07 16:53                             ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-10-07 17:05                               ` H.J. Lu [this message]
2021-10-07 17:24                               ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-10-08  9:15                                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-10-11  8:56                         ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-11 10:18                           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-10-11 11:47                             ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-11 12:01                               ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-11 13:10                                 ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-11 13:22                                   ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-11 14:31                                     ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-11 13:34                                 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-10-11 12:48                               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-10-15  7:54 ` [PATCH v2] dl: Use "adr" assembler command to get proper load address on ARM Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-15 12:09   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-10-15 12:21     ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-15 12:59       ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-15 23:53         ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-10-18 11:08           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-10-18 11:35             ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-19 12:03               ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-25 10:18               ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-25 10:25                 ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-25 10:53                   ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-25 13:34                     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-10-25 14:04                       ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-25 15:09                         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-10-25 17:26                           ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-26 13:52                             ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-26 20:55                               ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-27  9:38                                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-10-25 18:25                           ` Lukasz Majewski
2021-10-15 13:59     ` Lukasz Majewski

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