Re: [PATCH 0/2] Make tunable a default feature

[Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>]

On 20/03/23 20:15, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
> On 2023-03-20 12:59, Adhemerval Zanella Netto wrote:
>> I think it might make sense for tunables that change the program semantic, such
>> as security hardening; although I don't think it really fits for performance
>> oriented ones (such malloc or pthread tuning).  So maybe we can define a global
> 
> Administrative level performance tuning defaults for setuid binaries?

I was thinking more of opt-in security features (such as mte_state on aarch64),
although it might fit better on some ABI extension (such as done by cet).

> 
>> file format where the administrator can set where setuid binaries can use it,
>> and if uses can overwrite it.  My initial idea would be something quite simple,
>> similar to sysctl.conf:
> 
> Yes, I think Florian suggested reusing ld.so.conf instead.  I don't have a strong preference either way so y'all can fight that one out - potato potato ;)

Did he mean add the tunable information on ld.so.conf or using a similar scheme
where the file is preprocessed by a tool so loader can just mmap a file without
the need any parsing?

For later, I don't have a strong opinion.  I assume that a global tunable won't
be a default configuration, like loader cache; and parsing should really easy
(it a ini like file).

> 
>> And I was thinking about an DF_1_NODEFLIB analogous so the program can opt-out
>> any performance or behavior difference any tunable might incur.  Although with
>> your idea of enforceable tunable, I think it does not make much sense.
> 
> Yeah an ELF flag to override all tunables seems counter to the whole idea, but ELF flags to override specific tunables may make sense.  E.g. memory tagging enabled by default in the system and a program built with DF_NO_MEMTAG overrides that systemwide setting.

The issue of a per-tunable flag is it will require to settle a minimum ABI for
tunable, or adding a ELF extension with a string blob that is only understable
by an specific glibc version.  I am not sure, maybe we can it only if required.