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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Theo de Raadt <deraadt@openbsd.org>
Cc: otto@cvs.openbsd.org, djm@cvs.openbsd.org,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, "Alejandro Colomar" <alx@kernel.org>,
	"Theo de Raadt" <deraadt@theos.com>,
	"Todd C . Miller" <Todd.Miller@sudo.ws>,
	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	"Cristian Rodríguez" <crrodriguez@opensuse.org>,
	"Adhemerval Zanella" <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	"Yann Droneaud" <ydroneaud@opteya.com>,
	"Joseph Myers" <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	"Serge Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"Iker Pedrosa" <ipedrosa@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Give a useful meaning to arc4random_uniform(0);
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2022 16:13:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd253fc5-d978-68aa-868f-18537d212433@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ced48d59-2032-0350-916e-7740d1d53f66@gmail.com>


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Hi Theo,

On 12/31/22 15:56, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
>>
>> I do not like your proposal at all.  A function like arc4random_range()
>> is even more likely to be used wrong by passing backwards points
>> and you seem to have a lot of hubris to add a range check to it.

I didn't understand the entire sentence, since I'm not a native English speaker. 
  Sorry for that.  About adding a range check, I'm not against it.  But what to 
do in that case?  abort()?  I don't see anything significantly better?  In the 
Linux kernel, the used something BUILD_BUG, but I don't know those macros very much.

I'm really open to discussion about what would the the best behavior when max < min.

Cheers,

Alex

> 
> Oh, I just checked hubris in the dictionary and it seems you did mention ego. 
> I'll try to rebate you with something useful.
> 
> If you run `grep -rn 'arc4random_uniform('` in the OpenBSD tree, there will be 
> many cases where you'd really benefit from this.  I'll just pick a few:
> 
> 
> sys/net/pf_lb.c:224:
>              cut = arc4random_uniform(1 + high - low) + low;
> better as:
>              cut = arc4random_range(low, high);
> 
> 
> sys/kern/kern_fork.c:648:
>          pid = 2 + arc4random_uniform(PID_MAX - 1);
> better as:
>          pid = arc4random_range(2, PID_MAX);
> 
> 
> usr.bin/nc/netcat.c:1501:
>                  cp = arc4random_uniform(x + 1);
> better as:
>                  cp = arc4random_range(0, x);
> 
> 
-- 
<http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/>

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-31 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-31  2:36 Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-31  2:48 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-31  2:57 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-12-31 13:39   ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-31  8:50 ` Theo de Raadt
2022-12-31  8:51   ` Theo de Raadt
2022-12-31 14:56     ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-31 15:13       ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2022-12-31 15:17         ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-31 15:59         ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-31 16:03           ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-01  8:41           ` Theo de Raadt
2022-12-31 23:07   ` Damien Miller
2022-12-31 23:58     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-01  7:48       ` Ariadne Conill
2023-01-01  9:21         ` Otto Moerbeek
2023-01-01 14:05         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-01  8:34       ` Theo de Raadt
2023-01-01 21:37 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-01-01 23:50   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-02  0:02     ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-01-02 11:24       ` Alejandro Colomar

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