From: Rainer Orth <ro@CeBiTec.Uni-Bielefeld.DE>
To: Jonathan Wakely <jwakely@redhat.com>
Cc: "CHIGOT, CLEMENT" <clement.chigot@atos.net>,
libstdc++ <libstdc++@gcc.gnu.org>,
David Edelsohn via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
David Edelsohn <dje.gcc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] libstdc++: implement locale support for AIX
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 12:54:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ydd35yt89vc.fsf@CeBiTec.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210122112910.GI541588@redhat.com> (Jonathan Wakely's message of "Fri, 22 Jan 2021 11:29:10 +0000")
Hi Jonathan,
> On 22/01/21 12:04 +0100, Rainer Orth wrote:
>>why? I've just double-checked the OpenGroup pages: all of the functions
>>listed as XPG7 above were part of IEEE 1003.1-2008, just some of them
>>have Technical Corrigenda applied. IIUC IEEE 1003.1-2017 is just a
>>revision of the -2008 standard, not a new issue (XPG8 or something).
>
> Technically, the 2008 standard has been withdrawn and replaced by
> 2017. Since the content is the same, it seems more correct to refer to
> the current standard (even if Solaris only documents support for the
> 2008 edition, if it also implements the corrigenda then it conforms to
> 2017 even if it doesn't document that).
I've found no macro that would distinguish P1003.1-2008 and -2017. It
seems both are identified by _XOPEN_SOURCE=700 and
_POSIX_C_SOURCE=200809L.
> But as I said, a shorter, more memorable name like "xpg7" or just
> "posix" might be preferable anyway.
I'd strongly prefer xpg7 over posix: after all, xpg6 systems are still
around (Solaris 11.3 being one of them, and I suspect older AIX versions
as well). It's certainly much less of a mouthful than ieee_1003.1-2008 ;-)
>>>> As for the BSD group, I suggest to have one representative configure
>>>> test (for localeconv_l perhaps) and then use an appropriate name for the
>>>> group as a whole. Again, this will most likely be an all-or-nothing
>>>> thing.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure this is really all-or-nothing for these. Maybe strtof_l and cie
>>> can be grouped by. But the 3 others are really different. Linux have
>>> wcsftime_l
>>> but not the others. AIX avec none. BSD have all.
>>
>>TBH, I don't care about Linux here: it will continue to use the gnu
>>variant anyway. Besides, since the patch will have to work on targets
>>without wcsftime_l and the other BSD functions, I don't see any harm in
>>not using one non-standard one of them although it's present.
>
> I agree that GNU/Linux will continue to use the gnu model, but it can
> still be usable as a useful extra test of the code's portablility,
> since it implements everything in XPG7 (and more). We shouldn't spend
> any effort doing linux-specific changes in this new model, since they
> won't be used in practice. But if it works "out of the box" with no
> tweaks, then that is useful for testing.
Absolutely: the more different implementation we can throw at the code,
the better for portability.
Rainer
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[not found] ` <CAGWvny=XpcWGnyb=MWg5ziYSND7O1AnQ6-NAX811p1b5urH0YA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-01-11 15:35 ` Rainer Orth
2021-01-11 15:40 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-01-11 15:56 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-01-11 22:20 ` David Edelsohn
2021-01-12 15:14 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-01-12 15:23 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-01-12 15:25 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-01-12 15:40 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-01-12 15:44 ` David Edelsohn
2021-01-12 17:34 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-01-12 15:52 ` Rainer Orth
2021-01-12 17:41 ` Rainer Orth
2021-01-12 17:44 ` David Edelsohn
2021-01-12 19:58 ` Rainer Orth
2021-01-13 11:57 ` Rainer Orth
2021-01-13 12:23 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-01-13 12:31 ` Rainer Orth
2021-01-13 12:41 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-01-13 12:47 ` Rainer Orth
2021-01-21 12:48 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-01-21 16:36 ` Rainer Orth
2021-01-22 9:57 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-01-22 11:04 ` Rainer Orth
2021-01-22 11:29 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-01-22 11:54 ` Rainer Orth [this message]
2021-01-22 12:23 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-01-27 12:52 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-01-27 14:26 ` Rainer Orth
2021-01-27 14:44 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-01-28 10:09 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-05-17 9:17 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-06-08 6:59 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-06-09 14:50 ` Rainer Orth
2021-07-21 12:00 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-07-21 13:04 ` Rainer Orth
2021-07-22 12:09 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-07-22 12:19 ` Rainer Orth
2021-07-30 14:02 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2022-03-16 9:57 ` CHIGOT, CLEMENT
2021-01-22 11:12 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-01-22 11:02 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-01-12 16:00 ` Rainer Orth
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2021-01-11 15:38 ` Rainer Orth
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