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From: Jim Kingdon <kingdon@redhat.com>
To: jason-swarelist@molenda.com
Cc: overseers@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: cygwin-xfree
Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 06:32:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200005071332.JAA13650@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20000507063200._Q6-VYN0U45_7HBdLp4rjvFPMjJ__r1H9FWEgHHu3gQ@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20000504131930.B19898@shell17.ba.best.com>

> in retrospect, it was a mistake to not get more buy-in from Cygnus
> officially at some point.  Back in the summer of '98 it would have
> been a huge mistake to get marketing et al tied in to sourceware.

Well, I'm sort of trying to involve the whole company more, e.g. with
sending the rename question to the company wide list.  And I have
talked with a few people in marketing (not decision makers in
marketing, but actually "decision maker in marketing" can be a bit of
an oxymoron just now - most notably because Tom Butta (chief marketing
officer) was replaced only a few weeks ago).

> We should have (or present tense, should) convinced management to pony
> up for a full time person and hooked it into the rest of the company's
> organization.

Part of the problem in the past was figuring out where in the
organization this kind of thing might hook in.

Although I guess the problem now is more that loss leaders are just
really hard to get funded (or maybe not, that's what I thought and
then Jim Blandy got funded for 6 months to go hack on version control,
which just goes to show that I don't really understand - or
something).

If anyone in Red Hat is interested in working on this problem, take a
look at my internal page on sourceware strategy (email me for the URL
on the intranet if you need it), and let me know your thoughts.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-05-07  6:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-30  6:08 cygwin-xfree Chris Faylor
2000-05-03 19:18 ` cygwin-xfree Chris Faylor
2000-12-30  6:08 ` cygwin-xfree Tom Tromey
2000-05-03 19:59   ` cygwin-xfree Tom Tromey
2000-12-30  6:08   ` cygwin-xfree Chris Faylor
2000-05-03 20:07     ` cygwin-xfree Chris Faylor
2000-12-30  6:08     ` cygwin-xfree Tom Tromey
2000-05-03 20:09       ` cygwin-xfree Tom Tromey
2000-12-30  6:08       ` cygwin-xfree Chris Faylor
2000-05-03 20:22         ` cygwin-xfree Chris Faylor
2000-12-30  6:08         ` cygwin-xfree Bob Manson
2000-05-03 21:11           ` cygwin-xfree Bob Manson
2000-12-30  6:08           ` cygwin-xfree Jason Molenda
2000-05-04 13:19             ` cygwin-xfree Jason Molenda
2000-12-30  6:08             ` Jim Kingdon [this message]
2000-05-07  6:32               ` cygwin-xfree Jim Kingdon
2000-12-30  6:08             ` cygwin-xfree Stan Shebs
2000-05-21 22:19               ` cygwin-xfree Stan Shebs
2000-12-30  6:08               ` cygwin-xfree Mark Galassi
2000-05-22  6:15                 ` cygwin-xfree Mark Galassi
2000-12-30  6:08         ` cygwin-xfree Jim Kingdon
2000-05-04  4:52           ` cygwin-xfree Jim Kingdon
2000-12-30  6:08           ` cygwin-xfree Chris Faylor
2000-05-04  7:48             ` cygwin-xfree Chris Faylor
2000-12-30  6:08       ` libstdc++-v3 things that still are not working correctly Benjamin Kosnik
2000-05-03 20:14         ` Benjamin Kosnik
2000-12-30  6:08         ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-05-03 22:33           ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-12-30  6:08     ` cygwin-xfree Per Bothner
2000-05-03 23:21       ` cygwin-xfree Per Bothner
2000-12-30  6:08       ` cygwin-xfree Jim Kingdon
2000-05-04  4:35         ` cygwin-xfree Jim Kingdon
2000-12-30  6:08 ` cygwin-xfree Andrew Cagney
2000-05-03 19:30   ` cygwin-xfree Andrew Cagney
2000-12-30  6:08   ` cygwin-xfree Chris Faylor
2000-05-03 19:34     ` cygwin-xfree Chris Faylor
2000-12-30  6:08   ` cygwin-xfree Jim Kingdon
2000-05-03 19:47     ` cygwin-xfree Jim Kingdon
2000-12-30  6:08 ` cygwin-xfree Jeffrey A Law
2000-05-04  9:07   ` cygwin-xfree Jeffrey A Law
2000-12-30  6:08 ` cygwin-xfree Jason Molenda
2000-05-03 19:45   ` cygwin-xfree Jason Molenda
2000-12-30  6:08   ` cygwin-xfree Chris Faylor
2000-05-03 19:53     ` cygwin-xfree Chris Faylor
2000-12-30  6:08   ` htdig, was cygwin-xfree Frank Ch. Eigler
2000-05-03 20:23     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2000-12-30  6:08     ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2000-05-06  2:43       ` Hans-Peter Nilsson

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