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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>
Cc: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
	overseers@gcc.gnu.org, gcc mailing list <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Overseers mailing list <overseers@sourceware.org>,
	Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Subject: Re: Spam, bounces and gcc list removal
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2020 10:05:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k13c4v5m.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.21.2003212110470.2689954@eddie.linux-mips.org> (Maciej W. Rozycki's message of "Sat, 21 Mar 2020 21:22:31 +0000 (GMT)")

* Maciej W. Rozycki:

> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020, Frank Ch. Eigler via Gcc wrote:
>
>> > > So, a request: Could the overseers either install more effective
>> > > spam protection for the list as a whole (preferred)
>> 
>> Heh, if only it were that easy!  Spam filtering was and is distinct
>> from mailing list processing, and as you know it's a constant arms
>> race.  We're working hard to make the new installation of spamassassin
>> as discriminating as possible.  We're also working on the workflow to
>> clean the web archives of spam that got through.
>
>  Spam bouncing is evil and often hits an innocent person whose address has 
> been faked by the sender of spam, making the source of bounces not better 
> than the originator.

I expect this to be an SMTP-level rejection, not a bounce.  sourceware
generates a bounce from that, and Mailman reacts to that.  But the
target mail server does not generate a bounce.  So your concern about
bad ISP behavior does not apply here.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-22  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-15 12:24 Thomas Koenig
2020-03-21 19:39 ` Thomas Koenig
2020-03-21 20:08   ` H.J. Lu
2020-03-22  2:39     ` Oleg Endo
2020-03-21 20:29   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-21 21:22     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-03-22  8:01       ` Winfried Magerl
2020-03-22 16:35         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-03-22  9:05       ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2020-03-22 13:24         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-03-22 13:29           ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-22 16:13             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2020-03-22  9:54     ` Thomas Koenig

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