SN4.5.2 Win32 setup/usage for call-freq.tk

SN4.5.2 Win32 setup/usage for call-freq.tk

[henryn]

Folks:

Could someone give me at least somewhat detailed instructions on how to use
the utility "call-freq.tk" supplied in the SN4.5.2 Win32 release?

I've got as far as a completely functioning SN project, no problem, and I've
grokked that the "hyper.exe" console window is somehow required, but the
path is pretty obscure beyond that.

There's no "usage" comment in "call-freq.tk" and --even if there was-- it's
a bit difficult for those of us not immersed in this technology to see how
what to do with it.  I tried the similar utilities --which do have some
usage information-- with no success.

It would be really helpful for someone to give me cookbook guidance on the
order of  "given an existing project in directory 'x' with a name 'y',  open
window 'z' and utter '<<incantation>>'  to get the call frequency
information from the database."

Thanks,

Henry

Henry Neugass
Microsystems Consultant
Palo Alto
650/856-0357

Re: SN4.5.2 Win32 setup/usage for call-freq.tk

[Ian Roxborough]

Hi,

call-freq.tk isn't a really utility, it's more of an example
on how to rewrite addons or utilities for SN.

You can run it like this:

./hyper -f ../share/sdk/api/tcl/database/examples/call-freq.tk

But you'll need to pass the project directory and project name.
I'm not sure how well it'll work on Windows, you may have to
use snsdk.exe to launch it (if it's results are sent to the
console).

These scripts aren't well maintained, it wouldn't suprise me
if they don't work.

 Ian.

henryn wrote:
> 
> Folks:
> 
> Could someone give me at least somewhat detailed instructions on how to use
> the utility "call-freq.tk" supplied in the SN4.5.2 Win32 release?
> 
> I've got as far as a completely functioning SN project, no problem, and I've
> grokked that the "hyper.exe" console window is somehow required, but the
> path is pretty obscure beyond that.
> 
> There's no "usage" comment in "call-freq.tk" and --even if there was-- it's
> a bit difficult for those of us not immersed in this technology to see how
> what to do with it.  I tried the similar utilities --which do have some
> usage information-- with no success.
> 
> It would be really helpful for someone to give me cookbook guidance on the
> order of  "given an existing project in directory 'x' with a name 'y',  open
> window 'z' and utter '<<incantation>>'  to get the call frequency
> information from the database."
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Henry
> 
> Henry Neugass
> Microsystems Consultant
> Palo Alto
> 650/856-0357

Re: SN4.5.2 Win32 setup/usage for call-freq.tk

[henryn]

Ian:

Thanks for your email:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> call-freq.tk isn't a really utility, it's more of an example
> on how to rewrite addons or utilities for SN.

Yes I understand that, though I believe I've seen some dox somewhere that
seem to promise a bit more for this script.

A little history:   I was a paying customer for SN 4.2 Developer.  Haven't
used it for a while.

What I want is --no surprise-- the call frequencies for the code.  Handy for
my work.  

I had heard the "enterprise" version of SN 4.2 had this feature built in.

Just now came back to look for the latest and found the model had changed
entirely.   
> 
> You can run it like this:
> 
> ./hyper -f ../share/sdk/api/tcl/database/examples/call-freq.tk
> 
> But you'll need to pass the project directory and project name.
> I'm not sure how well it'll work on Windows, you may have to
> use snsdk.exe to launch it (if it's results are sent to the
> console).

After a few experiments --aided by the very nice Tcl debug framework-- I got
this working.  The usage is:

 ./hyper  full-path-of-script  full-path-of-SN-bin  projectname

> 
> These scripts aren't well maintained, it wouldn't suprise me
> if they don't work.

Well, this script works, but not perfectly.  The scatter plot is poorly
scaled -- most everything is bunched up in a corner.  Clicking on a data
point (to get specific call frequency data) is difficult.    There's some
strange effect that brings up an error message on a mis-aim.  But I can't
reproduce it now.  

Would it be a worthwhile contribution for me to try to reproduce the error
and report it?  If no one cares, I won't bother.

I'll probably try to excise all the graphics and dump the call frequency to
the console (but then I may have to deal with "snsdk.exe" -- whatever that
is) or to a file.  I've done just enough Tcl hacking to be dangerous.

Thanks for your help.

Henry

Henry Neugass
Microsystems Consultant
Palo Alto
650/856-0357




> 
> Ian.
> 
> henryn wrote:
>> 
>> Folks:
>> 
>> Could someone give me at least somewhat detailed instructions on how to use
>> the utility "call-freq.tk" supplied in the SN4.5.2 Win32 release?
>> 
>> I've got as far as a completely functioning SN project, no problem, and I've
>> grokked that the "hyper.exe" console window is somehow required, but the
>> path is pretty obscure beyond that.
>> 
>> There's no "usage" comment in "call-freq.tk" and --even if there was-- it's
>> a bit difficult for those of us not immersed in this technology to see how
>> what to do with it.  I tried the similar utilities --which do have some
>> usage information-- with no success.
>> 
>> It would be really helpful for someone to give me cookbook guidance on the
>> order of  "given an existing project in directory 'x' with a name 'y',  open
>> window 'z' and utter '<<incantation>>'  to get the call frequency
>> information from the database."
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> Henry Neugass
>> Microsystems Consultant
>> Palo Alto
>> 650/856-0357
>