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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: "Jiang, Haochen" <haochen.jiang@intel.com>
Cc: "hjl.tools@gmail.com" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	"binutils@sourceware.org" <binutils@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Support Intel AVX10.1
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 07:54:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa6e8de5-ea8e-6f78-fb43-de33237bc0f9@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SA1PR11MB59468DDFAC764A55725D94A1EC1CA@SA1PR11MB5946.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On 23.08.2023 04:20, Jiang, Haochen wrote:
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2023 9:03 PM
>> To: Jiang, Haochen <haochen.jiang@intel.com>
>> Cc: hjl.tools@gmail.com; binutils@sourceware.org
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Support Intel AVX10.1
>>
>> On 14.08.2023 08:45, Haochen Jiang wrote:
>>> @@ -1315,6 +1321,20 @@ output_i386_opcode (FILE *table, const char
>> *name, char *str,
>>>    ident = mkident (name);
>>>    fprintf (table, "  { MN_%s, 0x%0*llx%s, %u,",
>>>  	   ident, 2 * (int)length, opcode, end, i);
>>> +
>>> +  j = strlen(ident);
>>> +  /* All AVX512F based instructions are usable for AVX10.1 except
>>> +     AVX512PF/ER/4FMAPS/4VNNIW/VP2INTERSECT.  */  if (strstr
>>> + (cpu_flags, "AVX512")
>>> +      && !strstr (cpu_flags, "AVX512PF")
>>> +      && !strstr (cpu_flags, "AVX512ER")
>>> +      && !strstr (cpu_flags, "4FMAPS")
>>> +      && !strstr (cpu_flags, "4VNNIW")
>>> +      && !strstr (cpu_flags, "VP2INTERSECT"))
>>> +    {
>>> +      cpu_flags = concat (cpu_flags, "|AVX10_1", NULL);
>>> +      k = 1;
>>> +    }
>>>    free (ident);
>>
>> While making a patch myself along the lines of what I had outlined, I came to
>> realize that the above isn't enough. (I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have spotted
>> this by merely reviewing your patch.) This may be a result of the spec being
>> somewhat ambiguous when it comes to GFNI, VAES, and VPCLMULQDQ.
>> There's a note there saying something about the respective EVEX encodings.
>> But that still requires the VEX encodings connected to these three features to
>> also become suitably available. While this works fine for GFNI, it doesn't for
>> the other two: The 128-bit VEX encodings, which surely are available when the
>> 256-bit ones are, would become impossible to use. The assembler would pick
>> the (larger) EVEX forms instead. There are two ways to solve this that I can see
>> right away:
>> 1) AES becomes a dependency of VAES (and PCLMULQDQ one of
>> VPCLMULQDQ)
>> 2) We put in place extra templates.
>> I'm wary of the first option as long as not at least informally supported by you
>> (Intel). Hence I went with option 2 for now.
>>
>> I'm only done with the /512 patch, so I won't post right away. I'm still
>> debating with myself whether to control maximum vector length via a new
>> directive, or via a special form of .arch.
> 
> Do you think a command line option like -mavx10maxvl=256/512 with default 512
> is ok for this scenario? I am working to revise the AVX10.1 patch like that.

That's certainly an option, but right now I have different plans.

Jan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-23  5:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-27  7:15 [PATCH] " Haochen Jiang
2023-07-27 11:23 ` Jan Beulich
2023-07-28  2:50   ` Jiang, Haochen
2023-07-28  6:53 ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-01  2:18   ` Jiang, Haochen
2023-08-01  6:49     ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-04  7:45       ` Jiang, Haochen
2023-08-04  7:57         ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-14  6:45           ` [PATCH v2] " Haochen Jiang
2023-08-14  8:19             ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-14  8:46               ` Jiang, Haochen
2023-08-14 10:33                 ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-14 10:35                   ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-15  8:32                   ` Jiang, Haochen
2023-08-15 14:10                     ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-16  8:21                       ` Jiang, Haochen
2023-08-16  8:59                         ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-17  9:08                           ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-18  6:53                             ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-18 13:03             ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-23  2:20               ` Jiang, Haochen
2023-08-23  3:34                 ` [RFC][PATCH v3] " Haochen Jiang
2023-08-23  7:17                   ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-23  5:54                 ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2023-08-23  6:21                   ` [PATCH v2] " Jiang, Haochen
2023-08-23  6:24                     ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-23  6:25                       ` Jiang, Haochen
2023-08-23  6:39                         ` Jan Beulich

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