Re: Help Understanding Path Issue

Re: Help Understanding Path Issue

[mwoehlke]

While CC'ing me for some reason(?), Igor Peshansky wrote:
(And was there a reason for that, or did you just hit 'reply all' by 
accident/reflex/because the hippo made me?)

> On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, mwoehlke wrote:
>> Scott Purcell wrote:
>>> I have "CLASSPATHS" and "PATHS" and some "HOME" directories set up.
>>> Eg: ANT_HOME value=C:/ant/bin
>> I assume you meant "CLASSPATH" and "PATH".
> 
> I think he meant "CLASSPATH"s and "PATH"s. :-)

Um... actually, I was assuming he only had one $PATH. If he has more, 
how does bash tell them apart? ;-)

> Actually, the list of variables automatically translated by Cygwin was
> posted here at some point (it may even be in the FAQ).  At the very least
> it's PATH, HOME, and LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but there may be others.

LD_LIBRARY_PATH? Since when does Windows have any clue what to do with 
*that*? (Or it it folded into PATH?)

-- 
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Re: Help Understanding Path Issue

[Igor Peshansky]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, mwoehlke wrote:

> While CC'ing me for some reason(?), Igor Peshansky wrote:
> (And was there a reason for that, or did you just hit 'reply all' by
> accident/reflex/because the hippo made me?)

I always hit "Reply-All", and you didn't have Reply-To: set.

> > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, mwoehlke wrote:
> > > Scott Purcell wrote:
> > > > I have "CLASSPATHS" and "PATHS" and some "HOME" directories set up.
> > > > Eg: ANT_HOME value=C:/ant/bin
> > > I assume you meant "CLASSPATH" and "PATH".
> >
> > I think he meant "CLASSPATH"s and "PATH"s. :-)
>
> Um... actually, I was assuming he only had one $PATH. If he has more,
> how does bash tell them apart? ;-)

Well, okay, "*CLASSPATH"s and "*PATH"s...

> > Actually, the list of variables automatically translated by Cygwin was
> > posted here at some point (it may even be in the FAQ).  At the very
> > least it's PATH, HOME, and LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but there may be others.
>
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH? Since when does Windows have any clue what to do with
> *that*? (Or it it folded into PATH?)

Hmm...  [Digs into the sources]...  Yep, here's the full list as of today:
PATH, HOME, LD_LIBRARY_PATH (yes!), TMPDIR, TMP, TEMP.  And no,
LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not folded into PATH.  And don't ask me why it gets
converted...
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Re: Help Understanding Path Issue

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Jun 29 18:57, Igor Peshansky wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, mwoehlke wrote:
> > LD_LIBRARY_PATH? Since when does Windows have any clue what to do with
> > *that*? (Or it it folded into PATH?)
> 
> Hmm...  [Digs into the sources]...  Yep, here's the full list as of today:
> PATH, HOME, LD_LIBRARY_PATH (yes!), TMPDIR, TMP, TEMP.  And no,
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not folded into PATH.  And don't ask me why it gets
> converted...

A quick grep over the ChangeLogs is sometimes very helpful.


Hippo, Hippo, Hooray,
Corinna

RE: Help Understanding Path Issue

[Dave Korn]

On 30 June 2006 10:58, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

> On Jun 29 18:57, Igor Peshansky wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, mwoehlke wrote:
>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH? Since when does Windows have any clue what to do with
>>> *that*? (Or it it folded into PATH?)
>> 
>> Hmm...  [Digs into the sources]...  Yep, here's the full list as of today:
>> PATH, HOME, LD_LIBRARY_PATH (yes!), TMPDIR, TMP, TEMP.  And no,
>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not folded into PATH.  And don't ask me why it gets
>> converted...
> 
> A quick grep over the ChangeLogs is sometimes very helpful.
> 
> 
> Hippo, Hippo, Hooray,
> Corinna



  Eeeewww!  If the hippos have grepped all over the ChangeLogs, *I'm* not
cleaning it up!


    cheers,
      DaveK
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Re: Help Understanding Path Issue

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Jun 30 11:16, Dave Korn wrote:
> On 30 June 2006 10:58, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > A quick grep over the ChangeLogs is sometimes very helpful.
> 
>   Eeeewww!  If the hippos have grepped all over the ChangeLogs, *I'm* not
> cleaning it up!

This is TYPICAL man!  And who IS going to clean up afterwards?


Corinna

RE: Help Understanding Path Issue

[Dave Korn]

On 30 June 2006 12:04, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

> On Jun 30 11:16, Dave Korn wrote:
>> On 30 June 2006 10:58, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>>> A quick grep over the ChangeLogs is sometimes very helpful.
>> 
>>   Eeeewww!  If the hippos have grepped all over the ChangeLogs, *I'm* not
>> cleaning it up!
> 
> This is TYPICAL man!  And who IS going to clean up afterwards?
> 
> 
> Corinna

  This is TYPICAL woman!  You just *assumed* I /had/ to be assuming a woman
should do it!  Why can't the hippos do it?  The hippos dropped it, the hippos
can pick it up!

  Well, if the hippo won't clean up all that grep, maybe we can persuade the
cat and the awk to scoop it up.  After all, what do we have computers for if
not to do the work for us?

    cheers,
      DaveK
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Re: Help Understanding Path Issue

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Jun 30 12:10, Dave Korn wrote:
> On 30 June 2006 12:04, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> 
> > On Jun 30 11:16, Dave Korn wrote:
> >> On 30 June 2006 10:58, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >>> A quick grep over the ChangeLogs is sometimes very helpful.
> >> 
> >>   Eeeewww!  If the hippos have grepped all over the ChangeLogs, *I'm* not
> >> cleaning it up!
> > 
> > This is TYPICAL man!  And who IS going to clean up afterwards?
> > 
> > 
> > Corinna
> 
>   This is TYPICAL woman!  You just *assumed* I /had/ to be assuming a woman
> should do it!

Read again.  You were just refusing to do it, so naturally somebody
else has to do it.  What's wrong with cleaning up yourself, huh?

> Why can't the hippos do it?  The hippos dropped it, the hippos
> can pick it up!

Did you bother to take a look at a hippo foot lately?  How, do you
think, should the poor, prehensily challenged hippos do that by
themselves?

>   Well, if the hippo won't clean up all that grep, maybe we can persuade the
> cat and the awk to scoop it up.  After all, what do we have computers for if
> not to do the work for us?

Hmm, well, I have to admit that this is a good idea.  It might
even go a bit quicker if we could get the lynx and ESPECIALLY
the man to help ;-)


Corinna

Re: Help Understanding Path Issue

[Eric Blake]

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According to Corinna Vinschen on 6/30/2006 6:27 AM:
> 
> Hmm, well, I have to admit that this is a good idea.  It might
> even go a bit quicker if we could get the lynx and ESPECIALLY
> the man to help ;-)

So in cygwin, there's a cat and a lynx, and even a python, but not an ant?
 Why can't cygwin be nice to the insects, too?  I'm tired of having to go
native to get my insects :)

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Re: Help Understanding Path Issue

[Igor Peshansky]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, Eric Blake wrote:

> According to Corinna Vinschen on 6/30/2006 6:27 AM:
> >
> > Hmm, well, I have to admit that this is a good idea.  It might
> > even go a bit quicker if we could get the lynx and ESPECIALLY
> > the man to help ;-)
>
> So in cygwin, there's a cat and a lynx, and even a python, but not an
> ant?  Why can't cygwin be nice to the insects, too?  I'm tired of having
> to go native to get my insects :)

At least you can install bugzilla... :-)
	Igor
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Re: Help Understanding Path Issue

[Igor Peshansky]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

> On Jun 30 12:10, Dave Korn wrote:
>
> >   Well, if the hippo won't clean up all that grep, maybe we can
> > persuade the cat and the awk to scoop it up.  After all, what do we
> > have computers for if not to do the work for us?
>
> Hmm, well, I have to admit that this is a good idea.  It might
> even go a bit quicker if we could get the lynx and ESPECIALLY
> the man to help ;-)

Yeah.  The man and his date... ];->
	Igor
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RE: Help Understanding Path Issue

[Igor Peshansky]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, Dave Korn wrote:

> On 30 June 2006 12:04, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>
> > On Jun 30 11:16, Dave Korn wrote:
> >> On 30 June 2006 10:58, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >>> A quick grep over the ChangeLogs is sometimes very helpful.
> >>
> >>   Eeeewww!  If the hippos have grepped all over the ChangeLogs, *I'm* not
> >> cleaning it up!
> >
> > This is TYPICAL man!  And who IS going to clean up afterwards?
>
>   This is TYPICAL woman!  You just *assumed* I /had/ to be assuming a
> woman should do it!  Why can't the hippos do it?  The hippos dropped it,
> the hippos can pick it up!
>
>   Well, if the hippo won't clean up all that grep, maybe we can persuade
> the cat and the awk to scoop it up.  After all, what do we have
> computers for if not to do the work for us?

Well, cat is probably going to do it, since they are so obsessed with
cleanliness, but aren't awks just trees?  How would they help clean it up?
Or are you thinking Heracles' fifth labour and the Augeas' stables?  I
would imagine it'll take a while for the ChangeLogs to dry, in that case.
	Igor
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that!" -- Rostand, "Cyrano de Bergerac"

RE: Help Understanding Path Issue

[Igor Peshansky]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, Dave Korn wrote:

> On 30 June 2006 10:58, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>
> > On Jun 29 18:57, Igor Peshansky wrote:
> >> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, mwoehlke wrote:
> >>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH? Since when does Windows have any clue what to do with
> >>> *that*? (Or it it folded into PATH?)
> >>
> >> Hmm...  [Digs into the sources]...  Yep, here's the full list as of today:
> >> PATH, HOME, LD_LIBRARY_PATH (yes!), TMPDIR, TMP, TEMP.  And no,
> >> LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not folded into PATH.  And don't ask me why it gets
> >> converted...
> >
> > A quick grep over the ChangeLogs is sometimes very helpful.
>
>   Eeeewww!  If the hippos have grepped all over the ChangeLogs, *I'm* not
> cleaning it up!

Oh, so *that's* what I kept finding every time I glanced at the
ChangeLogs...  Thanks, Dave, that explains a lot!
	Igor
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Re: Help Understanding Path Issue

[One Angry User]

On a sunny Friday morning, the 30th day of June, 2006, Corinna Vinschen's computer deigned to emit the following stream of bytes:

> On Jun 29 18:57, Igor Peshansky wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, mwoehlke wrote:
> > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH? Since when does Windows have any clue what to do with
> > > *that*? (Or it it folded into PATH?)
> >
> > Hmm...  [Digs into the sources]...  Yep, here's the full list as of today:
> > PATH, HOME, LD_LIBRARY_PATH (yes!), TMPDIR, TMP, TEMP.  And no,
> > LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not folded into PATH.  And don't ask me why it gets
> > converted...
>
> A quick grep over the ChangeLogs is sometimes very helpful.

Quick grep?  What's that?  I only have GNU grep installed on my machine.
Is Quick grep something I should try to compile from source myself?  Does
it do a better job than GNU grep?  Is it compatible?  What are the options
I should use?

OAU

Re: Help Understanding Path Issue

[mwoehlke]

Igor Peshansky wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, mwoehlke wrote:
>> While CC'ing me for some reason(?), Igor Peshansky wrote:
>> (And was there a reason for that, or did you just hit 'reply all' by
>> accident/reflex/because the hippo made me?)
> 
> I always hit "Reply-All", and you didn't have Reply-To: set.

Ah, so I don't. Probably because I am also using gmane to look at KDE 
lists; setting reply-to <cygwin> would be a little strange in that case. 
Too bad TB doesn't let you set things per-group :-(.

Anyway, thanks for the clarification; no worries.

>>> Actually, the list of variables automatically translated by Cygwin was
>>> posted here at some point (it may even be in the FAQ).  At the very
>>> least it's PATH, HOME, and LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but there may be others.
>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH? Since when does Windows have any clue what to do with
>> *that*? (Or it it folded into PATH?)
> 
> Hmm...  [Digs into the sources]...  Yep, here's the full list as of today:
> PATH, HOME, LD_LIBRARY_PATH (yes!), TMPDIR, TMP, TEMP.  And no,
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not folded into PATH.  And don't ask me why it gets
> converted...

Ok, I won't... but at least my confusion is shared. I feel better now. :-)

-- 
Matthew
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Re: Help Understanding Path Issue

[Igor Peshansky]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, mwoehlke wrote:

> Igor Peshansky wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, mwoehlke wrote:
> > > While CC'ing me for some reason(?), Igor Peshansky wrote:
> > > (And was there a reason for that, or did you just hit 'reply all' by
> > > accident/reflex/because the hippo made me?)
> >
> > I always hit "Reply-All", and you didn't have Reply-To: set.
>
> Ah, so I don't. Probably because I am also using gmane to look at KDE lists;
> setting reply-to <cygwin> would be a little strange in that case. Too bad TB
> doesn't let you set things per-group :-(.
>
> Anyway, thanks for the clarification; no worries.
>
> > > > Actually, the list of variables automatically translated by Cygwin was
> > > > posted here at some point (it may even be in the FAQ).  At the very
> > > > least it's PATH, HOME, and LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but there may be others.
> > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH? Since when does Windows have any clue what to do with
> > > *that*? (Or it it folded into PATH?)
> >
> > Hmm...  [Digs into the sources]...  Yep, here's the full list as of today:
> > PATH, HOME, LD_LIBRARY_PATH (yes!), TMPDIR, TMP, TEMP.  And no,
> > LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not folded into PATH.  And don't ask me why it gets
> > converted...
>
> Ok, I won't... but at least my confusion is shared. I feel better now. :-)

As Corinna said, the ChangeLogs speak for themselves.  See the entry for
2005-05-21 in src/winsup/cygwin.
	Igor
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Re: Help Understanding Path Issue

[mwoehlke]

Igor Peshansky wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, mwoehlke wrote:
>> Igor Peshansky wrote:
>>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, mwoehlke wrote:
>>>> Igor Peshansky wrote:
>>>>> Actually, the list of variables automatically translated by Cygwin was
>>>>> posted here at some point (it may even be in the FAQ).  At the very
>>>>> least it's PATH, HOME, and LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but there may be others.
>>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH? Since when does Windows have any clue what to do with
>>>> *that*? (Or it it folded into PATH?)
>>> Hmm...  [Digs into the sources]...  Yep, here's the full list as of today:
>>> PATH, HOME, LD_LIBRARY_PATH (yes!), TMPDIR, TMP, TEMP.  And no,
>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not folded into PATH.  And don't ask me why it gets
>>> converted...
>> Ok, I won't... but at least my confusion is shared. I feel better now. :-)
> 
> As Corinna said, the ChangeLogs speak for themselves.  See the entry for
> 2005-05-21 in src/winsup/cygwin.
> 	Igor

hmm... get_full_path_of_dll()... that being a Cygwin function (unless 
Google has lost it), why would this ever need to be in non-POSIX format?

...Still confused. :-)

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