* Cygwin setup writing incorrect symlinks for native
@ 2022-01-06 10:46 David Allsopp
2022-01-06 16:05 ` Jon Turney
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: David Allsopp @ 2022-01-06 10:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
Running Cygwin setup 2.912 with --symlink-type native (or
CYGWIN=winsymlinks:native) is not correctly translating all symlinks. A
default install has these faulty ones:
/etc/pki/tls/cert.pem ->
\??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem
/etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt ->
\??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem
/etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.trust.crt ->
\??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\openssl\ca-bundle.trust.crt
/etc/ssl/certs -> \??\/etc\pki\tls\certs
/lib/security/cacerts -> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\java\cacerts
/usr/share/doc/groff-1.22.4/pdf/mom-pdf.pdf ->
\??\/usr\share\doc\groff-1.22.4\examples\mom\mom-pdf.pdf
In particular, we noticed that /etc/ssl/certs being invalid breaks git.
David
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* Re: Cygwin setup writing incorrect symlinks for native
2022-01-06 10:46 Cygwin setup writing incorrect symlinks for native David Allsopp
@ 2022-01-06 16:05 ` Jon Turney
2022-01-06 16:45 ` David Allsopp
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jon Turney @ 2022-01-06 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Allsopp, The Cygwin Mailing List
On 06/01/2022 10:46, David Allsopp wrote:
> Running Cygwin setup 2.912 with --symlink-type native (or
> CYGWIN=winsymlinks:native) is not correctly translating all symlinks. A
> default install has these faulty ones:
>
> /etc/pki/tls/cert.pem ->
> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem
> /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt ->
> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem
> /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.trust.crt ->
> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\openssl\ca-bundle.trust.crt
> /etc/ssl/certs -> \??\/etc\pki\tls\certs
> /lib/security/cacerts -> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\java\cacerts
> /usr/share/doc/groff-1.22.4/pdf/mom-pdf.pdf ->
> \??\/usr\share\doc\groff-1.22.4\examples\mom\mom-pdf.pdf
Thanks for reporting this.
Yes, it seems this is messed up where the target of the symlink is an
absolute path.
I've uploaded setup 2.913 with an attempted fix.
https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.913.x86_64.exe
https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.913.x86.exe
Please try that (you'll have to reinstall the effected packages), and
see if it improves things for you?
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* RE: Cygwin setup writing incorrect symlinks for native
2022-01-06 16:05 ` Jon Turney
@ 2022-01-06 16:45 ` David Allsopp
2022-01-07 15:44 ` Jon Turney
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: David Allsopp @ 2022-01-06 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The Cygwin Mailing List
Jon Turney wrote:
> On 06/01/2022 10:46, David Allsopp wrote:
> > Running Cygwin setup 2.912 with --symlink-type native (or
> > CYGWIN=winsymlinks:native) is not correctly translating all symlinks.
> > A default install has these faulty ones:
> >
> > /etc/pki/tls/cert.pem ->
> > \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem
> > /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt ->
> > \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem
> > /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.trust.crt ->
> > \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\openssl\ca-bundle.trust.crt
> > /etc/ssl/certs -> \??\/etc\pki\tls\certs /lib/security/cacerts ->
> > \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\java\cacerts
> > /usr/share/doc/groff-1.22.4/pdf/mom-pdf.pdf ->
> > \??\/usr\share\doc\groff-1.22.4\examples\mom\mom-pdf.pdf
>
>
> Thanks for reporting this.
>
> Yes, it seems this is messed up where the target of the symlink is an
> absolute path.
>
> I've uploaded setup 2.913 with an attempted fix.
>
> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.913.x86_64.exe
> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.913.x86.exe
>
> Please try that (you'll have to reinstall the effected packages), and see
> if it improves things for you?
Thank you! This fixes it for the Cygwin side, although the symlinks are still technically not right from the Windows side. They're still showing up prefixed \??\.
It's an age since I mucked around with those functions - IIRC the API function for writing them adds the \??\ itself and doesn't expect it to have been supplied? However, when you read the reparse point you have to remember to remove it yourself because who needs consistency :o)
C:\cygwin64>dir /s | findstr ??
01/06/2022 04:30 PM <SYMLINK> cert.pem [\??\C:\cygwin64\etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem]
01/06/2022 04:30 PM <SYMLINK> ca-bundle.crt [\??\C:\cygwin64\etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem]
01/06/2022 04:30 PM <SYMLINK> ca-bundle.trust.crt [\??\C:\cygwin64\etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\openssl\ca-bundle.trust.crt]
01/06/2022 04:30 PM <SYMLINKD> certs [\??\C:\cygwin64\etc\pki\tls\certs]
01/06/2022 04:30 PM <SYMLINK> cacerts [\??\C:\cygwin64\etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\java\cacerts]
01/06/2022 04:30 PM <SYMLINK> mom-pdf.pdf [\??\C:\cygwin64\usr\share\doc\groff-1.22.4\examples\mom\mom-pdf.pdf]
All best,
David
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* Re: Cygwin setup writing incorrect symlinks for native
2022-01-06 16:45 ` David Allsopp
@ 2022-01-07 15:44 ` Jon Turney
2022-01-09 9:35 ` David Allsopp
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jon Turney @ 2022-01-07 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Allsopp, The Cygwin Mailing List
On 06/01/2022 16:45, David Allsopp wrote:
> Jon Turney wrote:
>> On 06/01/2022 10:46, David Allsopp wrote:
>>> Running Cygwin setup 2.912 with --symlink-type native (or
>>> CYGWIN=winsymlinks:native) is not correctly translating all symlinks.
>>> A default install has these faulty ones:
>>>
>>> /etc/pki/tls/cert.pem ->
>>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem
>>> /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt ->
>>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem
>>> /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.trust.crt ->
>>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\openssl\ca-bundle.trust.crt
>>> /etc/ssl/certs -> \??\/etc\pki\tls\certs /lib/security/cacerts ->
>>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\java\cacerts
>>> /usr/share/doc/groff-1.22.4/pdf/mom-pdf.pdf ->
>>> \??\/usr\share\doc\groff-1.22.4\examples\mom\mom-pdf.pdf
>>
>>
>> Thanks for reporting this.
>>
>> Yes, it seems this is messed up where the target of the symlink is an
>> absolute path.
>>
>> I've uploaded setup 2.913 with an attempted fix.
>>
>> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.913.x86_64.exe
>> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.913.x86.exe
>>
>> Please try that (you'll have to reinstall the effected packages), and see
>> if it improves things for you?
>
> Thank you! This fixes it for the Cygwin side, although the symlinks are still technically not right from the Windows side. They're still showing up prefixed \??\.
>
> It's an age since I mucked around with those functions - IIRC the API function for writing them adds the \??\ itself and doesn't expect it to have been supplied? However, when you read the reparse point you have to remember to remove it yourself because who needs consistency :o)
Thanks for testing. It seems I still didn't have this quite right and
these symlinks just happened to work for cygwin, but not native tools.
Please try
https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.914.x86_64.exe
https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.914.x86.exe
> C:\cygwin64>dir /s | findstr ??
> 01/06/2022 04:30 PM <SYMLINK> cert.pem [\??\C:\cygwin64\etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem]
> 01/06/2022 04:30 PM <SYMLINK> ca-bundle.crt [\??\C:\cygwin64\etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem]
> 01/06/2022 04:30 PM <SYMLINK> ca-bundle.trust.crt [\??\C:\cygwin64\etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\openssl\ca-bundle.trust.crt]
> 01/06/2022 04:30 PM <SYMLINKD> certs [\??\C:\cygwin64\etc\pki\tls\certs]
> 01/06/2022 04:30 PM <SYMLINK> cacerts [\??\C:\cygwin64\etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\java\cacerts]
> 01/06/2022 04:30 PM <SYMLINK> mom-pdf.pdf [\??\C:\cygwin64\usr\share\doc\groff-1.22.4\examples\mom\mom-pdf.pdf]
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* RE: Cygwin setup writing incorrect symlinks for native
2022-01-07 15:44 ` Jon Turney
@ 2022-01-09 9:35 ` David Allsopp
2022-01-10 15:39 ` Jon Turney
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: David Allsopp @ 2022-01-09 9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The Cygwin Mailing List
Jon Turney wrote:
> On 06/01/2022 16:45, David Allsopp wrote:
> > Jon Turney wrote:
> >> On 06/01/2022 10:46, David Allsopp wrote:
> >>> Running Cygwin setup 2.912 with --symlink-type native (or
> >>> CYGWIN=winsymlinks:native) is not correctly translating all symlinks.
> >>> A default install has these faulty ones:
> >>>
> >>> /etc/pki/tls/cert.pem ->
> >>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem
> >>> /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt ->
> >>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem
> >>> /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.trust.crt ->
> >>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\openssl\ca-bundle.trust.crt
> >>> /etc/ssl/certs -> \??\/etc\pki\tls\certs /lib/security/cacerts ->
> >>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\java\cacerts
> >>> /usr/share/doc/groff-1.22.4/pdf/mom-pdf.pdf ->
> >>> \??\/usr\share\doc\groff-1.22.4\examples\mom\mom-pdf.pdf
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for reporting this.
> >>
> >> Yes, it seems this is messed up where the target of the symlink is an
> >> absolute path.
> >>
> >> I've uploaded setup 2.913 with an attempted fix.
> >>
> >> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.913.x86_64.exe
> >> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.913.x86.exe
> >>
> >> Please try that (you'll have to reinstall the effected packages), and
> >> see if it improves things for you?
> >
> > Thank you! This fixes it for the Cygwin side, although the symlinks are
> > still technically not right from the Windows side. They're still showing
> > up prefixed \??\.
> >
> > It's an age since I mucked around with those functions - IIRC the API
> > function for writing them adds the \??\ itself and doesn't expect it
> > to have been supplied? However, when you read the reparse point you
> > have to remember to remove it yourself because who needs consistency
> > :o)
>
> Thanks for testing. It seems I still didn't have this quite right and
> these symlinks just happened to work for cygwin, but not native tools.
>
> Please try
>
> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.914.x86_64.exe
> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.914.x86.exe
I'm afraid that's just changed the \??\ to \\?\ on those symlinks.
All best,
David
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* Re: Cygwin setup writing incorrect symlinks for native
2022-01-09 9:35 ` David Allsopp
@ 2022-01-10 15:39 ` Jon Turney
2022-01-12 16:03 ` David Allsopp
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jon Turney @ 2022-01-10 15:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Allsopp, The Cygwin Mailing List
On 09/01/2022 09:35, David Allsopp wrote:
> Jon Turney wrote:
>> On 06/01/2022 16:45, David Allsopp wrote:
>>> Jon Turney wrote:
>>>> On 06/01/2022 10:46, David Allsopp wrote:
>>>>> Running Cygwin setup 2.912 with --symlink-type native (or
>>>>> CYGWIN=winsymlinks:native) is not correctly translating all symlinks.
>>>>> A default install has these faulty ones:
>>>>>
>>>>> /etc/pki/tls/cert.pem ->
>>>>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem
>>>>> /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt ->
>>>>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem
>>>>> /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.trust.crt ->
>>>>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\openssl\ca-bundle.trust.crt
>>>>> /etc/ssl/certs -> \??\/etc\pki\tls\certs /lib/security/cacerts ->
>>>>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\java\cacerts
>>>>> /usr/share/doc/groff-1.22.4/pdf/mom-pdf.pdf ->
>>>>> \??\/usr\share\doc\groff-1.22.4\examples\mom\mom-pdf.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
[...]
>>
>> Thanks for testing. It seems I still didn't have this quite right and
>> these symlinks just happened to work for cygwin, but not native tools.
>>
>> Please try
>>
>> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.914.x86_64.exe
>> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.914.x86.exe
>
> I'm afraid that's just changed the \??\ to \\?\ on those symlinks.
Well, that has the advantage of being correct :)
(since it's the 'Win32 File Namespace' prefix, which
CreateSymbolicLinkW() is documented to accept for the target filename,
and is required when that exceeds MAX_PATH (260) characters)
In my (brief) testing, e.g. the CMD builtin 'type' is able to open
symlinks of this form. However, it seems there are some parts of
Windows (e.g. DIR, File Explorer), which don't handle symlinks like that
well.
So, I've copied the behaviour of the cygwin DLL, which avoids using that
prefix if the target is less than MAX_PATH characters. This seem to
work better in those cases with typical paths (but I'd claim we're just
working around a bug in Windows here, as things will still be broken if
the cygwin root is a path long enough that we can't do that).
Please try:
https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.915.x86_64.exe
https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.915.x86.exe
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* RE: Cygwin setup writing incorrect symlinks for native
2022-01-10 15:39 ` Jon Turney
@ 2022-01-12 16:03 ` David Allsopp
2022-01-12 16:18 ` Jon Turney
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: David Allsopp @ 2022-01-12 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The Cygwin Mailing List
Jon Turney wrote:
> On 09/01/2022 09:35, David Allsopp wrote:
> > Jon Turney wrote:
> >> On 06/01/2022 16:45, David Allsopp wrote:
> >>> Jon Turney wrote:
> >>>> On 06/01/2022 10:46, David Allsopp wrote:
> >>>>> Running Cygwin setup 2.912 with --symlink-type native (or
> >>>>> CYGWIN=winsymlinks:native) is not correctly translating all
> symlinks.
> >>>>> A default install has these faulty ones:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> /etc/pki/tls/cert.pem ->
> >>>>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem
> >>>>> /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt ->
> >>>>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\pem\tls-ca-bundle.pem
> >>>>> /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.trust.crt ->
> >>>>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\openssl\ca-bundle.trust.crt
> >>>>> /etc/ssl/certs -> \??\/etc\pki\tls\certs /lib/security/cacerts ->
> >>>>> \??\/etc\pki\ca-trust\extracted\java\cacerts
> >>>>> /usr/share/doc/groff-1.22.4/pdf/mom-pdf.pdf ->
> >>>>> \??\/usr\share\doc\groff-1.22.4\examples\mom\mom-pdf.pdf
> >>>>
> >>>>
> [...]
> >>
> >> Thanks for testing. It seems I still didn't have this quite right
> >> and these symlinks just happened to work for cygwin, but not native
> tools.
> >>
> >> Please try
> >>
> >> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.914.x86_64.exe
> >> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.914.x86.exe
> >
> > I'm afraid that's just changed the \??\ to \\?\ on those symlinks.
>
> Well, that has the advantage of being correct :)
>
> (since it's the 'Win32 File Namespace' prefix, which
> CreateSymbolicLinkW() is documented to accept for the target filename, and
> is required when that exceeds MAX_PATH (260) characters)
>
> In my (brief) testing, e.g. the CMD builtin 'type' is able to open
> symlinks of this form. However, it seems there are some parts of Windows
> (e.g. DIR, File Explorer), which don't handle symlinks like that well.
>
> So, I've copied the behaviour of the cygwin DLL, which avoids using that
> prefix if the target is less than MAX_PATH characters. This seem to work
> better in those cases with typical paths (but I'd claim we're just working
> around a bug in Windows here, as things will still be broken if the cygwin
> root is a path long enough that we can't do that).
>
> Please try:
>
> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.915.x86_64.exe
> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.915.x86.exe
That's working (for cmd as well), thanks!
David
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* Re: Cygwin setup writing incorrect symlinks for native
2022-01-12 16:03 ` David Allsopp
@ 2022-01-12 16:18 ` Jon Turney
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jon Turney @ 2022-01-12 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Allsopp, The Cygwin Mailing List
On 12/01/2022 16:03, David Allsopp wrote:
> Jon Turney wrote:
>>
>> Please try:
>>
>> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.915.x86_64.exe
>> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.915.x86.exe
>
> That's working (for cmd as well), thanks!
Great! Thanks for reporting this problem and testing my several
attempts at fixing it :)
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