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From: Andrey Gursky <andrey.gursky@e-mail.ua>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Cc: cyg Simple <cygsimple@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: WinXP is dead [WAS: 2.6.x: broken compatibility with Wine]
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 03:22:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161110042134.7411e93fb294a8ea36ae0797@e-mail.ua> (raw)

Hi cyg Simple,

On 11/9/2016 7:59 AM, Andrey Gursky wrote:
>> 
>> P.S. Was it not too early to remove WinXP support? Though it is
>> officially not supported anymore, there are still PCs running WinXP
>> (and Wine). Also there are still systems, I've heard, using some
>> embedded Windows, that shares the same code with WinXP, thus making it
>> not yet truly obsolete. Additionally a lot of work has been done by
>> Cygwin contributors to support this OS and I believe the most of bugs
>> have been workarounded, while due to stopped development it is not
>> likely one has to spend time solving new problems. So was it really
>> worth to drop the hardly crafted code? Are there already some
>> worthwhile advantages? Why wasn't it possible to switch Cygwin WinXP
>> support to just "not officially supported"? (kindly asking)
> 
> This has been answered.  The problem with supporting XP into infinitude
> is that every application would need to agree to do the same.
> Improvements to the OS API would not be able to be used so there are
> trade-offs for the continued support of an OS that is no longer
> supported.  The code becomes unwieldy to maintain because a change needs
> to be tested on other systems.  Security maintenance becomes impossible
> because the OS vendor no longer supports the older OS.  There is the
> cygwin time machine, USE IT if you need old software for old OS.

Thanks for your reply (however I haven't received it, because you
likely didn't click on "reply all"?).

Do you refer to the recent message [1]?

Regarding cygwin time machine. I can't use it, since cygwin is compiled
for MSYS2. And then it is being run under Wine on GNU/Linux. While
WinXP is still not dead, Wine is definitively not an old OS. It's just
an active project doing WinAPI implementation from scratch according to
documentation. Thus I hope Cygwin developers could talk directly to
Wine ones to find the minimum needed changes in both projects.

Regards,
Andrey

[1] Re: New Cygwin "setup" program useless on my Win-XP box. Not very
    nice at all.
    https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2016-11/msg00060.html

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             reply	other threads:[~2016-11-10  3:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-10  3:22 Andrey Gursky [this message]
2016-11-10  9:04 ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-11-11  0:15 ` Herbert Stocker
2016-11-11  1:04   ` Peter A. Castro
2016-11-11 11:33     ` Herbert Stocker
2016-11-12  3:29       ` cyg Simple
2016-11-12  4:34       ` Peter A. Castro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-11-10 16:14 Andrey Gursky
2016-11-10 19:21 ` Andrey Gursky
2016-11-10 14:20 WinXP is dead [WAS: 2.6.x: broken compatibility with Wine], Andrey Gursky
2016-11-10 14:38 ` Andrey Gursky
2016-11-10 15:06 ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-11-09 13:00 2.6.x: broken compatibility with Wine Andrey Gursky
2016-11-09 18:23 ` WinXP is dead [WAS: 2.6.x: broken compatibility with Wine] cyg Simple

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