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From: Takashi Yano <takashi.yano@nifty.ne.jp>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: cygrunsrv + sshd + rsync = 20 times too slow -- throttled?
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 06:29:34 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210826062934.54f2f2216021c095bb7ba13b@nifty.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8106fe7-a2b8-d106-3061-4d888124f4b0@cornell.edu>

On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:52:19 -0400
Ken Brown wrote:
> On 8/25/2021 7:18 AM, Takashi Yano via Cygwin wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 12:49:52 -0700
> > Chris Roehrig wrote:
> >> I have a network of Windows, Linux and Mac machines and I use rsync to synchronize various directories between them.
> >>
> >> I'm trying to figure out why my rsync transfers are so slow (<4 MB/s) only when the remote endpoint is Cygwin rsync over sshd (with both a Linux or Cygwin rsync client).   In all other scenarios, I get the full 100MB/s as expected from gigabit ethernet.  This has been an ongoing problem for me for a couple of years over several Windows and Cygwin versions, and I'd like to try to fix it.
> >>
> >> If I run rsync --daemon --no-detach under mintty in the foreground on the remote Windows endpoint,  I get the full 100 MB/s transfers, so it seems like it has something to do with rsync.exe running in the background under the cygrunsrv+sshd service (which was installed normally using ssh-host-config).
> >>
> >> If I do:
> >> 	pv /dev/zero | ssh $WINHOST "cat > /dev/null"
> >> or even
> >> 	pv /dev/urandom | ssh $WINHOST md5sum
> >> I also get the full 100 MB/s transfers, so it doesn't look like sshd itself is being throttled by bandwidth or CPU.
> >>
> >> The machines have less than 15% CPU utilization while transferring, with each of the 4 cores less than 30%, so it doesn't look to be CPU issue.
> >> In Task Manager, sshd.exe and rsync.exe seem to be running normally using only few percent CPU, and show Power Throttling=Disabled, Priority=Normal.   Setting their Priority to High doesn't seem to change things.
> >>
> >> Looking in Resource Monitor on the remote endpoint, the network usage is pretty much a flat horizontal line at about 18 Mbps (2.5 MB/s), so it sure looks to me as if rsync is somehow being bandwidth-throttled\b when run in the background under cygsshd.
> >>
> >> It's almost as if rsync has an implicit --bwlimit override when it is run from cygrunsrv+sshd (I've tried --bwlimit=0 on the client which makes no difference).
> >>
> >>
> >> Any ideas?    Not sure where to go from here.
> > 
> > In cygwin, just scp is very slow.
> > 
> > The transfer speed in my environment is as follows.
> > The tests were done with 100MB of test.dat file.
> > 
> > (1-1) From cygwin-PC,
> > [yano@cygwin-PC ~]$ scp test.dat yano@linux-server:.
> > yano@linux-server's password:
> > test.dat                                      100%  100MB   4.0MB/s   00:24
> > [yano@cygwin-PC ~]$ scp yano@linux-server:test.dat .
> > yano@linux-server's password:
> > test.dat                                      100%  100MB   8.0MB/s   00:12
> > 
> > (1-2) From linux-server,
> > yano@linux-server:~$ scp yano@cygwin-PC:test.dat .
> > yano@cygwin-PC's password:
> > test.dat                                      100%  100MB   4.0MB/s   00:24
> > yano@linux-server:~$ scp test.dat yano@cygwin-PC:.
> > yano@cygwin-PC's password:
> > test.dat                                      100%  100MB   4.1MB/s   00:24
> > 
> > 
> > I looked into this problem, and noticed that this is caused
> > by cygwin pipe implementation. Pipe in cygwin is configured
> > with FILE_FLAG_OVERLAPPED.
> > 
> > If the pipe is configured without FILE_FLAG_OVERLAPPED,
> > the transfer speed is much improved as follows.
> > 
> > 
> > (2-1) From cygwin-PC,
> > [yano@cygwin-PC ~]$ scp test.dat yano@linux-server:.
> > yano@linux-server's password:
> > test.dat                                      100%  100MB  85.5MB/s   00:01
> > [yano@cygwin-PC ~]$ scp yano@linux-server:test.dat .
> > yano@linux-server's password:
> > test.dat                                      100%  100MB  69.7MB/s   00:01
> > 
> > (2-2) From linux-server,
> > yano@linux-server:~$ scp yano@cygwin-PC:test.dat .
> > yano@cygwin-PC's password:
> > test.dat                                      100%  100MB  80.1MB/s   00:01
> > yano@linux-server:~$ scp test.dat yano@cygwin-PC:.
> > yano@cygwin-PC's password:
> > test.dat                                      100%  100MB  57.7MB/s   00:01
> > 
> > I am not sure why this happens and how to fix this.
> 
> A couple years ago I had an idea for changing the pipe implementation to avoid 
> overlapped I/O:
> 
>    https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-patches/2019q2/009393.html
>    https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-patches/2019q2/009423.html
> 
> I never followed up on it.  But if you think it might help with this problem, I 
> could dust it off and try to finish it.

Interesting.

It will be also helpfull for:
https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/2021-March/247987.html
which seems to be the same issue with
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10385424/good-alternatives-to-cygwin-cygwin-doesnt-support-natively-support-win32-app

However, I wonder why scp dislikes overlapped I/O.

-- 
Takashi Yano <takashi.yano@nifty.ne.jp>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-25 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-24 19:49 Chris Roehrig
2021-08-24 23:43 ` Mark Geisert
2021-08-25  0:35   ` Chris Roehrig
2021-08-25  2:12     ` Chris Roehrig
2021-08-25  2:02 ` NightStrike
2021-08-25  3:20   ` Mark Geisert
2021-08-25 17:24     ` Chris Roehrig
2021-08-25 11:18 ` Takashi Yano
2021-08-25 17:31   ` Chris Roehrig
2021-08-25 17:52   ` Ken Brown
2021-08-25 18:18     ` Chris Roehrig
2021-08-25 18:51       ` Chris Roehrig
2021-08-26 15:44       ` Ken Brown
2021-08-25 20:33     ` Mario Emmenlauer
2021-08-26 15:47       ` Ken Brown
2021-08-25 21:29     ` Takashi Yano [this message]
2021-08-26 15:56       ` Ken Brown
2021-08-26 22:18         ` Ken Brown
2021-08-27 11:24           ` Takashi Yano
2021-08-27 16:00             ` Ken Brown
2021-08-27 17:21               ` Takashi Yano
2021-08-28  2:00                 ` Takashi Yano
2021-08-28  3:03                   ` Takashi Yano
2021-08-28  8:43                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2021-08-28  9:41                   ` Takashi Yano
2021-08-28 11:58                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2021-08-28 15:43                       ` Takashi Yano
2021-08-28 20:55                         ` Ken Brown
2021-08-29  8:41                           ` Takashi Yano
2021-08-29 22:42                             ` Ken Brown
2021-08-29 10:27                         ` Corinna Vinschen
2021-08-29  9:07                     ` Takashi Yano
2021-08-29 15:57                       ` Ken Brown
2021-08-29 19:24                         ` Chris Roehrig
2021-08-29 22:24                           ` Ken Brown
2021-08-30 23:58                             ` Chris Roehrig
2021-08-31 19:05                               ` Ken Brown
2021-08-31 19:53                                 ` Chris Roehrig
2021-08-31 20:23                                   ` Chris Roehrig
2021-08-31 21:29                                     ` Brian Inglis
2021-09-01 21:11                                     ` Chris Roehrig
2021-09-02 15:25                                       ` Ken Brown
2021-09-02 19:03                                         ` Chris Roehrig
2021-09-03 17:26                                           ` Ken Brown
2021-09-03 19:55                                           ` Corinna Vinschen
2021-09-03 20:59                                             ` Chris Roehrig
2021-09-04  8:32                                               ` Achim Gratz
2021-09-04 16:45                                               ` Brian Inglis
2021-09-05  8:18                                                 ` Achim Gratz
2021-09-05 15:11                                                   ` Brian Inglis
2021-09-06 10:42                                                     ` Achim Gratz
2021-09-04 22:37                                             ` mmap failure [was: cygrunsrv + sshd + rsync = 20 times too slow -- throttled?] Ken Brown
2021-09-04 22:54                                               ` Ken Brown
2021-09-04 22:58                                                 ` Ken Brown
2021-09-05  0:04                                                   ` Ken Brown
2021-09-05 13:24                                                     ` Ken Brown
2021-09-06 15:32                                                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2021-09-06 17:12                                                         ` Ken Brown
2021-09-06 17:38                                                           ` Ken Brown
2021-09-06 17:43                                                             ` Eliot Moss
2021-09-06 17:59                                                             ` Corinna Vinschen
2021-09-06 18:07                                                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2021-09-06 18:40                                                                 ` Ken Brown
2021-09-06 20:52                                                                   ` Peter Dons Tychsen
2021-09-06 20:54                                                                   ` Peter Dons Tychsen
2021-09-06 21:24                                                                     ` Ken Brown
2021-09-06 21:31                                                                       ` Ken Brown
2021-09-07  3:34                                                                       ` Brian Inglis
2021-09-07 16:28                                                                         ` Ken Brown
2021-09-07 21:52                                                                           ` Lavrentiev, Anton (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [C]
2021-09-07 22:44                                                                             ` Ken Brown
2021-09-08  6:14                                                                               ` Sam Edge
2021-09-08  8:18                                                                         ` Corinna Vinschen
2021-09-07 21:41                                                                       ` Peter Dons Tychsen
2021-09-04 23:18                                               ` Brian Inglis
2021-08-29 19:37                         ` cygrunsrv + sshd + rsync = 20 times too slow -- throttled? Takashi Yano
2021-08-29 21:09                           ` Ken Brown
2021-08-29 21:04                       ` Ken Brown
2021-08-30  0:13                         ` Takashi Yano
2021-08-30  0:22                           ` Takashi Yano
2021-08-30  2:15                             ` Ken Brown
2021-08-30  8:02                               ` Takashi Yano
2021-08-28 15:17                   ` Ken Brown
2021-09-16 22:00 ` Keith Christian
2021-09-16 22:48   ` Ken Brown
2021-09-16 22:58     ` Keith Christian

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