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* [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.19.0-1 (TEST)
@ 2016-11-18 15:57 Jon Turney
  2016-11-18 19:21 ` Tim Prince
  2016-12-11 13:57 ` Jon Turney
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jon Turney @ 2016-11-18 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin


The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution:

*** xorg-server-*1.19.0-1

These packages contain XWin and the other X.Org X11 servers.

This is the first release of the xserver 1.19 series.  It is currently 
available as a test release, and will be made stable in a few weeks, if 
no major regressions are reported.

Please try test releases and report problems to the Cygwin mailing list. 
Testing helps ensure good releases!

In addition to upstream fixes and improvements [1][2][3][4], the 
following cygwin-specific changes have been made since 1.18.4-1:

* Fix a performance regression seen with some workloads/video drivers 
and -compositewm (the default) in multiwindow mode
* The smartscheduler is now on by default, since the Cygwin bugs which 
caused problems with it were fixed long ago.  It can be disabled with 
-dumbSched
* Remove the build-time requirement for windowswmproto for the removed 
experimental -mwextwm mode
* Update the X.Org icon, generated from the X.Org logo SVG.

[1] https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2016-November/002737.html
[2] https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2016-October/002734.html
[3] https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2016-September/002711.html
[4] https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2016-September/002709.html

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*xorg-server-1.19.0-1.tar.xz
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*xwinclip-1.19.0-1.tar.xz

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*xwinclip-1.19.0-1.tar.xz

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* Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.19.0-1 (TEST)
  2016-11-18 15:57 [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.19.0-1 (TEST) Jon Turney
@ 2016-11-18 19:21 ` Tim Prince
  2016-11-18 23:56   ` Ken Brown
  2016-12-11 13:57 ` Jon Turney
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From: Tim Prince @ 2016-11-18 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin



On 11/18/2016 10:31 AM, Jon Turney wrote:
>
> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution:
>
> *** xorg-server-*1.19.0-1
>
>
I still haven't learned how to make it start on Win8.1 or 10:

$ startxwin

Welcome to the XWin X Server
Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
Release: 1.19.0.0
OS: CYGWIN_NT-6.3 Timlaptop 2.6.0(0.304/5/3) 2016-08-31 14:32 x86_64
OS: Windows 8.1  [Windows NT 6.3 build 9600] (Win64)
Package: version 1.19.0-1 built 2016-11-17

XWin was started with the following command line:

/usr/bin/XWin :0 -multiwindow -auth /home/Tim/.serverauth.3028

(II) xorg.conf is not supported
(II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information
LoadPreferences: /home/Tim/.XWinrc not found
LoadPreferences: /etc/X11/system.XWinrc not found
LoadPreferences: See "man XWinrc" to customize the XWin menu.
LoadPreferences: Loading built-in default
winDetectSupportedEngines - RemoteSession: no
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed, allowing ShadowDDNL
winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000005
winSetEngine - Multi Window or Rootless => ShadowGDI
winScreenInit - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel
winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1920 height: 1080
depth: 32
winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff
winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24
bpp 32
MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support
XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack
of shared memory support in the kernel
glWinSelectGLimplementation: Loaded 'cygnativeGLthunk.dll'
(II) AIGLX: Testing pixelFormatIndex 1
GL_VERSION:     4.3.0 - Build 10.18.14.4264
GL_VENDOR:      Intel
GL_RENDERER:    Intel(R) HD Graphics 4400
(II) GLX: enabled GLX_SGI_make_current_read
(II) GLX: enabled GLX_SGI_swap_control
(II) GLX: enabled GLX_MESA_swap_control
(II) GLX: enabled GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
(II) GLX: enabled GLX_ARB_multisample
(II) GLX: enabled GLX_SGIS_multisample
(II) GLX: enabled GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float
(II) GLX: enabled GLX_EXT_fbconfig_packed_float
(II) GLX: enabled GLX_ARB_create_context
(II) GLX: enabled GLX_ARB_create_context_profile
(II) GLX: enabled GLX_ARB_create_context_robustness
(II) GLX: enabled GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile
(II) GLX: enabled GLX_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB
(II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
(II) 80 pixel formats reported by wglGetPixelFormatAttribivARB
(II) 44 fbConfigs
(II) ignored pixel formats: 0 not OpenGL, 0 unknown pixel type, 36
unaccelerated
(II) GLX: Initialized Win32 native WGL GL provider for screen 0
winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 960 540
(--) 3 mouse buttons found
(--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
(--) Windows keyboard layout: "00000409" (00000409) "US", type 4
(--) Found matching XKB configuration "English (USA)"
(--) Model = "pc105" Layout = "us" Variant = "none" Options = "none"
Rules = "base" Model = "pc105" Layout = "us" Variant = "none" Options =
"none"
winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=:0.0
winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=:0.0
winInitMultiWindowWM - xcb_connect () returned and successfully opened
the display.
winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned.
winClipboardThreadProc - DISPLAY=:0.0
winMultiWindowXMsgProc - xcb_connect() returned and successfully opened
the display.
Using Composite redirection
OS maintains clipboard viewer chain: yes
winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the
display.

______________________

But I don't see it opening an X display, and the taskbar icon disappears
after a few seconds.  May be missing the important user advice.

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* Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.19.0-1 (TEST)
  2016-11-18 19:21 ` Tim Prince
@ 2016-11-18 23:56   ` Ken Brown
  2016-11-19  0:57     ` Tim Prince
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Ken Brown @ 2016-11-18 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 11/18/2016 1:35 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>
>
> On 11/18/2016 10:31 AM, Jon Turney wrote:
>>
>> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution:
>>
>> *** xorg-server-*1.19.0-1
>>
>>
> I still haven't learned how to make it start on Win8.1 or 10:
[...]
> But I don't see it opening an X display, and the taskbar icon disappears
> after a few seconds.  May be missing the important user advice.

Have you looked for the xwin-xdg-icon in your hidden icons?  It's a 
black C superimposed over a green X.

Ken


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* Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.19.0-1 (TEST)
  2016-11-18 23:56   ` Ken Brown
@ 2016-11-19  0:57     ` Tim Prince
  2016-11-19 15:48       ` Ken Brown
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Tim Prince @ 2016-11-19  0:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin



On 11/18/2016 2:21 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
> On 11/18/2016 1:35 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/18/2016 10:31 AM, Jon Turney wrote:
>>>
>>> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution:
>>>
>>> *** xorg-server-*1.19.0-1
>>>
>>>
>> I still haven't learned how to make it start on Win8.1 or 10:
> [...]
>> But I don't see it opening an X display, and the taskbar icon disappears
>> after a few seconds.  May be missing the important user advice.
>
> Have you looked for the xwin-xdg-icon in your hidden icons?  It's a
> black C superimposed over a green X.
>
> Ken
>
The icon stays up in the hidden icons. but seems to have little use. 
After several more attempts, from the Start Menu Xterm shortcut,  I get
an icon on the task bar which lasts long enough to click on and open an
Xterm.  So it looks like it's basically working.
Thanks.

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* Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.19.0-1 (TEST)
  2016-11-19  0:57     ` Tim Prince
@ 2016-11-19 15:48       ` Ken Brown
       [not found]         ` <95889942-402f-e820-2eb7-beb70453a647@aol.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Ken Brown @ 2016-11-19 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 11/18/2016 6:52 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>
>
> On 11/18/2016 2:21 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
>> On 11/18/2016 1:35 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/18/2016 10:31 AM, Jon Turney wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution:
>>>>
>>>> *** xorg-server-*1.19.0-1
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I still haven't learned how to make it start on Win8.1 or 10:
>> [...]
>>> But I don't see it opening an X display, and the taskbar icon disappears
>>> after a few seconds.  May be missing the important user advice.
>>
>> Have you looked for the xwin-xdg-icon in your hidden icons?  It's a
>> black C superimposed over a green X.
>>
>> Ken
>>
> The icon stays up in the hidden icons. but seems to have little use.

Don't you get a menu when you click on it?

Ken


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* Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.19.0-1 (TEST)
       [not found]         ` <95889942-402f-e820-2eb7-beb70453a647@aol.com>
@ 2016-11-19 15:54           ` Ken Brown
  2016-11-19 16:36             ` Tim Prince
  2016-11-19 18:49             ` Tim Prince
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Ken Brown @ 2016-11-19 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

[Please keep the discussion on the mailing list.]

On 11/19/2016 9:19 AM, Tim Prince wrote:
>
>
> On 11/19/2016 8:42 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
>> On 11/18/2016 6:52 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/18/2016 2:21 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
>>>> On 11/18/2016 1:35 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/18/2016 10:31 AM, Jon Turney wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *** xorg-server-*1.19.0-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I still haven't learned how to make it start on Win8.1 or 10:
>>>> [...]
>>>>> But I don't see it opening an X display, and the taskbar icon
>>>>> disappears
>>>>> after a few seconds.  May be missing the important user advice.
>>>>
>>>> Have you looked for the xwin-xdg-icon in your hidden icons?  It's a
>>>> black C superimposed over a green X.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>> The icon stays up in the hidden icons. but seems to have little use.
>>
>> Don't you get a menu when you click on it?
>>
> That menu has the option to shut down xserver or view documentation but
> not to open an xterm.

I don't think we're talking about the same icon.  The one I referred to 
is a black C superimposed over a green X, and it has many options to 
start programs, including XTerm (under System Tools).  It's started by 
the xwin-xdg-icon program, which in turn is started by 
/etc/X11/xinit/startxwinrc (unless you have a ~/.startxwinrc that 
overrides it).  Does 'ps' show that xwin-xdg-icon is running?

Ken

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* Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.19.0-1 (TEST)
  2016-11-19 15:54           ` Ken Brown
@ 2016-11-19 16:36             ` Tim Prince
  2016-11-19 18:49             ` Tim Prince
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Tim Prince @ 2016-11-19 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin



On 11/19/2016 9:41 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
> [Please keep the discussion on the mailing list.]
>
> On 11/19/2016 9:19 AM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/19/2016 8:42 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
>>> On 11/18/2016 6:52 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/18/2016 2:21 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
>>>>> On 11/18/2016 1:35 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/18/2016 10:31 AM, Jon Turney wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin
>>>>>>> distribution:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *** xorg-server-*1.19.0-1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still haven't learned how to make it start on Win8.1 or 10:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> But I don't see it opening an X display, and the taskbar icon
>>>>>> disappears
>>>>>> after a few seconds.  May be missing the important user advice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you looked for the xwin-xdg-icon in your hidden icons?  It's a
>>>>> black C superimposed over a green X.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>> The icon stays up in the hidden icons. but seems to have little use.
>>>
>>> Don't you get a menu when you click on it?
>>>
>> That menu has the option to shut down xserver or view documentation but
>> not to open an xterm.
>
> I don't think we're talking about the same icon.  The one I referred
> to is a black C superimposed over a green X, and it has many options
> to start programs, including XTerm (under System Tools).  It's started
> by the xwin-xdg-icon program, which in turn is started by
> /etc/X11/xinit/startxwinrc (unless you have a ~/.startxwinrc that
> overrides it).  Does 'ps' show that xwin-xdg-icon is running?
>
> Ken
>
I've never seen that icon.  xwin-xdg-menu shows up in ps (mulitiple
copies if I keep trying) but not xdg-icon.

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* Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.19.0-1 (TEST)
  2016-11-19 15:54           ` Ken Brown
  2016-11-19 16:36             ` Tim Prince
@ 2016-11-19 18:49             ` Tim Prince
  2016-11-20  2:10               ` Ken Brown
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Tim Prince @ 2016-11-19 18:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin



On 11/19/2016 9:41 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
> [Please keep the discussion on the mailing list.]
>
> On 11/19/2016 9:19 AM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/19/2016 8:42 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
>>> On 11/18/2016 6:52 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/18/2016 2:21 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
>>>>> On 11/18/2016 1:35 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/18/2016 10:31 AM, Jon Turney wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin
>>>>>>> distribution:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *** xorg-server-*1.19.0-1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still haven't learned how to make it start on Win8.1 or 10:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> But I don't see it opening an X display, and the taskbar icon
>>>>>> disappears
>>>>>> after a few seconds.  May be missing the important user advice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you looked for the xwin-xdg-icon in your hidden icons?  It's a
>>>>> black C superimposed over a green X.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>> The icon stays up in the hidden icons. but seems to have little use.
>>>
>>> Don't you get a menu when you click on it?
>>>
>> That menu has the option to shut down xserver or view documentation but
>> not to open an xterm.
>
> I don't think we're talking about the same icon.  The one I referred
> to is a black C superimposed over a green X, and it has many options
> to start programs, including XTerm (under System Tools).  It's started
> by the xwin-xdg-icon program, which in turn is started by
> /etc/X11/xinit/startxwinrc (unless you have a ~/.startxwinrc that
> overrides it).  Does 'ps' show that xwin-xdg-icon is running?
>
>
I have occasionally got the xdg icon from which xterm can be started,
but I haven't found a reproducible way to bring it up.

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* Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.19.0-1 (TEST)
  2016-11-19 18:49             ` Tim Prince
@ 2016-11-20  2:10               ` Ken Brown
  2016-11-20 15:39                 ` Tim Prince
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Ken Brown @ 2016-11-20  2:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 11/19/2016 10:50 AM, Tim Prince wrote:
>
>
> On 11/19/2016 9:41 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
>> [Please keep the discussion on the mailing list.]
>>
>> On 11/19/2016 9:19 AM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/19/2016 8:42 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
>>>> On 11/18/2016 6:52 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/18/2016 2:21 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/18/2016 1:35 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/18/2016 10:31 AM, Jon Turney wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin
>>>>>>>> distribution:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *** xorg-server-*1.19.0-1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still haven't learned how to make it start on Win8.1 or 10:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> But I don't see it opening an X display, and the taskbar icon
>>>>>>> disappears
>>>>>>> after a few seconds.  May be missing the important user advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you looked for the xwin-xdg-icon in your hidden icons?  It's a
>>>>>> black C superimposed over a green X.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>
>>>>> The icon stays up in the hidden icons. but seems to have little use.
>>>>
>>>> Don't you get a menu when you click on it?
>>>>
>>> That menu has the option to shut down xserver or view documentation but
>>> not to open an xterm.
>>
>> I don't think we're talking about the same icon.  The one I referred
>> to is a black C superimposed over a green X, and it has many options
>> to start programs, including XTerm (under System Tools).  It's started
>> by the xwin-xdg-icon program, which in turn is started by
>> /etc/X11/xinit/startxwinrc (unless you have a ~/.startxwinrc that
>> overrides it).  Does 'ps' show that xwin-xdg-icon is running?
>>
>>
> I have occasionally got the xdg icon from which xterm can be started,
> but I haven't found a reproducible way to bring it up.

Sorry, but I'm confused now.  When you say "xdg icon", are you talking 
about the one I described?  Your previous message said you've never seen 
that icon.  Are you now saying that it does appear, but only 
occasionally?  Do you shut down the X server and retry when it doesn't 
appear?

Ken

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* Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.19.0-1 (TEST)
  2016-11-20  2:10               ` Ken Brown
@ 2016-11-20 15:39                 ` Tim Prince
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Tim Prince @ 2016-11-20 15:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin



On 11/19/2016 1:49 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
> On 11/19/2016 10:50 AM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/19/2016 9:41 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
>>> [Please keep the discussion on the mailing list.]
>>>
>>> On 11/19/2016 9:19 AM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/19/2016 8:42 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
>>>>> On 11/18/2016 6:52 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/18/2016 2:21 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/18/2016 1:35 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/18/2016 10:31 AM, Jon Turney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin
>>>>>>>>> distribution:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *** xorg-server-*1.19.0-1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I still haven't learned how to make it start on Win8.1 or 10:
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>> But I don't see it opening an X display, and the taskbar icon
>>>>>>>> disappears
>>>>>>>> after a few seconds.  May be missing the important user advice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you looked for the xwin-xdg-icon in your hidden icons?  It's a
>>>>>>> black C superimposed over a green X.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The icon stays up in the hidden icons. but seems to have little use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't you get a menu when you click on it?
>>>>>
>>>> That menu has the option to shut down xserver or view documentation
>>>> but
>>>> not to open an xterm.
>>>
>>> I don't think we're talking about the same icon.  The one I referred
>>> to is a black C superimposed over a green X, and it has many options
>>> to start programs, including XTerm (under System Tools).  It's started
>>> by the xwin-xdg-icon program, which in turn is started by
>>> /etc/X11/xinit/startxwinrc (unless you have a ~/.startxwinrc that
>>> overrides it).  Does 'ps' show that xwin-xdg-icon is running?
>>>
>>>
>> I have occasionally got the xdg icon from which xterm can be started,
>> but I haven't found a reproducible way to bring it up.
>
> Sorry, but I'm confused now.  When you say "xdg icon", are you talking
> about the one I described?  Your previous message said you've never
> seen that icon.  Are you now saying that it does appear, but only
> occasionally?  Do you shut down the X server and retry when it doesn't
> appear?
>
It seems necessary to reboot to get a clean start with no related
processes, unless there's a magic cleanup command.  I agree it may be
necessary to try it from clean start.

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* Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.19.0-1 (TEST)
  2016-11-18 15:57 [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xorg-server-1.19.0-1 (TEST) Jon Turney
  2016-11-18 19:21 ` Tim Prince
@ 2016-12-11 13:57 ` Jon Turney
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From: Jon Turney @ 2016-12-11 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 18/11/2016 15:31, Jon Turney wrote:
>
> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution:
>
> *** xorg-server-*1.19.0-1
>
> These packages contain XWin and the other X.Org X11 servers.
>
> This is the first release of the xserver 1.19 series.  It is currently
> available as a test release, and will be made stable in a few weeks, if
> no major regressions are reported.

These packages have been promoted from test to current.

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