* can't run cygwin emacs or XWin Server
@ 2016-12-25 12:55 mike
2016-12-25 15:14 ` Marco Atzeri
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From: mike @ 2016-12-25 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
I run 32 bit cygwin on a 64 bit machine running Windows 7.
I used to get an XWin Server terminal running bash at startup (logging
into Windows) from which I could run the emacs packaged in cygwin.
After a round of updates I don't get the terminal window at startup and
if I try to manually launch it it fails to launch and AFAICT if I try to
run emacs from a command prompt I get the native version of emacs that I
also have installed and not the cygwin one. The shortcut for XWin Server is
C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c /usr/bin/startxwin.exe
This seems to me to be the "phantom /usr/bin issue" mentioned at
www.postgresql.org/message-id/blngoc%24nrr%241%40sea.gmane.org because I
get the same behaviour described there and in related posts. I have
verified that "/usr/bin" and "/bin" are the same as far as ls is
concerned. The relevant part of the path as shown in System Properties
> Advanced > Environment Variables is "C:\cygwin\usr\bin;C:\cygwin\bin"
which precedes
"C:\Users\Mike\Downloads\emacs-25.1-2-i686-w64-mingw32\bin" in the path
which is what ends up running.
However if I run the MS shell in emacs or use command prompt then "which
ls", "which bash", "which emacs", "which printenv", "which startxwin"
and "which which" all come back with "/usr/bin/..." so those are
recognised by which at least.
I hope I'm just missing the obvious. Thanks for any help
Merry Christmas
Mike
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* Re: can't run cygwin emacs or XWin Server
2016-12-25 12:55 can't run cygwin emacs or XWin Server mike
@ 2016-12-25 15:14 ` Marco Atzeri
2016-12-25 22:59 ` mike
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From: Marco Atzeri @ 2016-12-25 15:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On 25/12/2016 13:55, mike wrote:
> I run 32 bit cygwin on a 64 bit machine running Windows 7.
>
> I used to get an XWin Server terminal running bash at startup (logging
> into Windows) from which I could run the emacs packaged in cygwin.
> After a round of updates I don't get the terminal window at startup and
> if I try to manually launch it it fails to launch and AFAICT if I try to
> run emacs from a command prompt I get the native version of emacs that I
> also have installed and not the cygwin one. The shortcut for XWin
> Server is
>
> C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c /usr/bin/startxwin.exe
Question:
Is the Xserver running and you just don't have the Xterm automatically run ?
If yes, the behavior is the current default.
If no, and the Xserver does not run at all, please follow
Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html
and provide as attachment the cygcheck.out.
> Merry Christmas
> Mike
>
Buon Natale
Marco
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* Re: can't run cygwin emacs or XWin Server
2016-12-25 15:14 ` Marco Atzeri
@ 2016-12-25 22:59 ` mike
2016-12-25 23:49 ` Ken Brown
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From: mike @ 2016-12-25 22:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On 25/12/2016 15:13, Marco Atzeri wrote:
> On 25/12/2016 13:55, mike wrote:
>> I run 32 bit cygwin on a 64 bit machine running Windows 7.
>>
>> I used to get an XWin Server terminal running bash at startup (logging
>> into Windows) from which I could run the emacs packaged in cygwin.
>> After a round of updates I don't get the terminal window at startup and
>> if I try to manually launch it it fails to launch and AFAICT if I try to
>> run emacs from a command prompt I get the native version of emacs that I
>> also have installed and not the cygwin one. The shortcut for XWin
>> Server is
>>
>> C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c /usr/bin/startxwin.exe
>
> Question:
> Is the Xserver running and you just don't have the Xterm automatically
> run ?
> If yes, the behavior is the current default.
>
>
> If no, and the Xserver does not run at all, please follow
Okay but what am I looking for? Is it an application, a process, a
service or a "task" (in Windows terms)? What name am I looking for?
I've tried the Task Manager, MSCONFIG and Display Running Tasks but
nothing obvious jumps out at me. According to cygcheck -c I have
packages xorg-cf-files, xorg-docs, xorg-scripts, xorg-server,
xorg-server-dmx, xorg-sgml-doctools, xorg-util-macros and
xorg-x11-bin-dlls installed and up to date. I also have emacs,
emacs-el, emacs-ocaml and emacs-X11 and bash, bash-completion and bashdb
installed and up to date.
You also mentioned the default behaviour. What would that be? Can you
point me to something that I can read to learn about the default
behaviour please?
Thanks in advance
>
> Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html
> and provide as attachment the cygcheck.out.
>
>> Merry Christmas
>> Mike
>>
>
> Buon Natale
> Marco
>
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* Re: can't run cygwin emacs or XWin Server
2016-12-25 22:59 ` mike
@ 2016-12-25 23:49 ` Ken Brown
2016-12-26 10:46 ` mike
2016-12-28 10:21 ` mike
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From: Ken Brown @ 2016-12-25 23:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On 12/25/2016 5:59 PM, mike wrote:
> On 25/12/2016 15:13, Marco Atzeri wrote:
>> On 25/12/2016 13:55, mike wrote:
>>> I run 32 bit cygwin on a 64 bit machine running Windows 7.
>>>
>>> I used to get an XWin Server terminal running bash at startup (logging
>>> into Windows) from which I could run the emacs packaged in cygwin.
>>> After a round of updates I don't get the terminal window at startup and
>>> if I try to manually launch it it fails to launch and AFAICT if I try to
>>> run emacs from a command prompt I get the native version of emacs that I
>>> also have installed and not the cygwin one. The shortcut for XWin
>>> Server is
>>>
>>> C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c /usr/bin/startxwin.exe
startxwin.exe doesn't exist any more. It's been replaced by a script
/usr/bin/startxwin. And, as Marco said, it doesn't start an xterm
automatically any more. See
https://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-announce/2015-07/msg00013.html
Ken
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* Re: can't run cygwin emacs or XWin Server
2016-12-25 23:49 ` Ken Brown
@ 2016-12-26 10:46 ` mike
2016-12-28 10:21 ` mike
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From: mike @ 2016-12-26 10:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On 25/12/2016 23:49, Ken Brown wrote:
> On 12/25/2016 5:59 PM, mike wrote:
>> On 25/12/2016 15:13, Marco Atzeri wrote:
>>> On 25/12/2016 13:55, mike wrote:
>>>> I run 32 bit cygwin on a 64 bit machine running Windows 7.
>>>>
>>>> I used to get an XWin Server terminal running bash at startup (logging
>>>> into Windows) from which I could run the emacs packaged in cygwin.
>>>> After a round of updates I don't get the terminal window at startup
>>>> and
>>>> if I try to manually launch it it fails to launch and AFAICT if I
>>>> try to
>>>> run emacs from a command prompt I get the native version of emacs
>>>> that I
>>>> also have installed and not the cygwin one. The shortcut for XWin
>>>> Server is
>>>>
>>>> C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c
>>>> /usr/bin/startxwin.exe
>
> startxwin.exe doesn't exist any more. It's been replaced by a script
> /usr/bin/startxwin. And, as Marco said, it doesn't start an xterm
> automatically any more. See
>
> https://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-announce/2015-07/msg00013.html
That is very useful. Thank you. I will check it out and report back.
>
> Ken
Mike
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* Re: can't run cygwin emacs or XWin Server
2016-12-25 23:49 ` Ken Brown
2016-12-26 10:46 ` mike
@ 2016-12-28 10:21 ` mike
2016-12-28 14:29 ` Jon Turney
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From: mike @ 2016-12-28 10:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On 25/12/2016 23:49, Ken Brown wrote:
> On 12/25/2016 5:59 PM, mike wrote:
>> On 25/12/2016 15:13, Marco Atzeri wrote:
>>> On 25/12/2016 13:55, mike wrote:
>>>> I run 32 bit cygwin on a 64 bit machine running Windows 7.
>>>>
>>>> I used to get an XWin Server terminal running bash at startup (logging
>>>> into Windows) from which I could run the emacs packaged in cygwin.
>>>> After a round of updates I don't get the terminal window at startup
>>>> and
>>>> if I try to manually launch it it fails to launch and AFAICT if I
>>>> try to
>>>> run emacs from a command prompt I get the native version of emacs
>>>> that I
>>>> also have installed and not the cygwin one. The shortcut for XWin
>>>> Server is
>>>>
>>>> C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c
>>>> /usr/bin/startxwin.exe
>
> startxwin.exe doesn't exist any more. It's been replaced by a script
> /usr/bin/startxwin. And, as Marco said, it doesn't start an xterm
> automatically any more. See
>
> https://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-announce/2015-07/msg00013.html
>
Hi developers
This is a sanity check. Are
https://x.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-x-ug.pdf and
https://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.pdf relatively up to date
with respect to the major changes announced in the link of 06 Jul 2015
above?
Thanks very much
Mike
> Ken
>
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