anyone interested in loading a portable drive?

anyone interested in loading a portable drive?

[aimedtech]

Okay, this is a complaint.  I've spent the past few days trying to download the Cygwin system and gotten nowhere.  I've tried several download
environments, using different protocols, nothing works.


And this is beyond being a pain, this is getting to be a real problem for me.  No, that's not right -- it is a problem for me, NOW.

I remember, I downloaded, installed it and used it, this was about a decade ago.  Then, the area for naming the machine download sites would fill in automatically;  Today, no.  I chose a couple and tried them, one at a time.  Neither worked

I'm not sure if this message is to just tell you that your install is very broken and goodbye or if I'm asking for help.

I am willing to send someone a USB 1TB drive and pay $50 bucks to load it and send it back.  If that's what I do I want everything.  The works.


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Re: anyone interested in loading a portable drive?

[Marco Atzeri]

Am 27.01.2020 um 05:33 schrieb aimedtech:
> 
> Okay, this is a complaint.  I've spent the past few days trying to download the Cygwin system and gotten nowhere.  I've tried several download
> environments, using different protocols, nothing works.

"Nothing works" tell us nothing that allow us to help you

> And this is beyond being a pain, this is getting to be a real problem for me.  No, that's not right -- it is a problem for me, NOW.
> 
> I remember, I downloaded, installed it and used it, this was about a decade ago.  Then, the area for naming the machine download sites would fill in automatically;  Today, no.  I chose a couple and tried them, one at a time.  Neither worked
> 
> I'm not sure if this message is to just tell you that your install is very broken and goodbye or if I'm asking for help.
> 
> I am willing to send someone a USB 1TB drive and pay $50 bucks to load it and send it back.  If that's what I do I want everything.  The works.
> 

may be following a guideline will help

> Problem reports:       http://cygwin.com/problems.html

Questions:

What operating system are you running ?

What fault you have running the Cygwin setup ?

Have you considered you AV as possible interference ?



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Re: anyone interested in loading a portable drive?

[Brian Inglis]

On 2020-01-26 21:33, aimedtech wrote:
> Okay, this is a complaint.  I've spent the past few days trying to download 
> the Cygwin system and gotten nowhere. I've tried several download 
> environments, using different protocols, nothing works.
> 
> And this is beyond being a pain, this is getting to be a real problem for
> me. No, that's not right -- it is a problem for me, NOW.
> 
> I remember, I downloaded, installed it and used it, this was about a decade 
> ago. Then, the area for naming the machine download sites would fill in 
> automatically; Today, no. I chose a couple and tried them, one at a time.
> Neither worked
> 
> I'm not sure if this message is to just tell you that your install is very
> broken and goodbye or if I'm asking for help.
>
> I am willing to send someone a USB 1TB drive and pay $50 bucks to load it 
> and send it back. If that's what I do I want everything. The works.
This is an all-volunteer project and mirrors are donated by the server owners.

Weekends are busy times for backups and security upgrades on publicly accessible
free servers, and if there are problems, support may not be available until the
next work day, after serious production issues are dealt with.

Similarly for answers and support from here.

The world has changed and Cygwin has become larger in the last decade (148GB
according to the Mirrors page).

You *MUST* download the latest x86/_64 installer from the home page
setup-x86/_64.exe links to get the latest active mirrors and use the current key:

	https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe
	https://cygwin.com/setup-x86.exe
	
Selection from the latest active mirrors to use is easiest by browsing the
linked Mirror Sites page:

	https://cygwin.com/mirrors.html

and you should see if you can recognize nearby sites which are likely to have
big servers and fast pipes.

You may find your closest site(s) overloaded, slow, and connectivity
intermittent, depending on the site ownership, day of week, time of day, network
path to you, other users on the site and on your local ISP feeds.

Avoid evenings and weekends, when many others nearby are downloading the newest
Amazon Prime, Apple+. Disney+, Netflix, etc. series to binge watch, and your ISP
is also throttling retail customers, to free up bandwidth for their business
customers doing offsite streaming backups.

Searching for an unofficial mirror at a nearby local university or (Unix) User
Group publicly available on the internet may give you better results.

Sometimes the closest mirrors may not be the fastest or most reliable, and ftp
sites nowadays are slower, less available and reliable than http/https sites, as
web sites get the big bucks, servers, memory, and pipes, but ftp sites may be
kept around only as long as nothing goes wrong with their old server.

Ping, traceroute, simple adhoc bandwidth and throughput tests will give you an
idea of the best performance, and experience will tell you about reliability.

Start by downloading only the base packges or upgrading what you have installed,
and be patient during postinstall steps, as rebasing all the DLLs, and
rebuilding updated pages in the man DB, can take a while with large upgrades or
outdated installs.

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Re: anyone interested in loading a portable drive?

[john doe]

On 1/27/2020 7:38 AM, Brian Inglis wrote:
> On 2020-01-26 21:33, aimedtech wrote:
>> Okay, this is a complaint.  I've spent the past few days trying to download
>> the Cygwin system and gotten nowhere. I've tried several download
>> environments, using different protocols, nothing works.
>>
>> And this is beyond being a pain, this is getting to be a real problem for
>> me. No, that's not right -- it is a problem for me, NOW.
>>
>> I remember, I downloaded, installed it and used it, this was about a decade
>> ago. Then, the area for naming the machine download sites would fill in
>> automatically; Today, no. I chose a couple and tried them, one at a time.
>> Neither worked
>>
>> I'm not sure if this message is to just tell you that your install is very
>> broken and goodbye or if I'm asking for help.
>>
>> I am willing to send someone a USB 1TB drive and pay $50 bucks to load it
>> and send it back. If that's what I do I want everything. The works.
> This is an all-volunteer project and mirrors are donated by the server owners.
>
> Weekends are busy times for backups and security upgrades on publicly accessible
> free servers, and if there are problems, support may not be available until the
> next work day, after serious production issues are dealt with.
>
> Similarly for answers and support from here.
>
> The world has changed and Cygwin has become larger in the last decade (148GB
> according to the Mirrors page).
>
> You *MUST* download the latest x86/_64 installer from the home page
> setup-x86/_64.exe links to get the latest active mirrors and use the current key:
>
> 	https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe
> 	https://cygwin.com/setup-x86.exe
>
> Selection from the latest active mirrors to use is easiest by browsing the
> linked Mirror Sites page:
>
> 	https://cygwin.com/mirrors.html
>
> and you should see if you can recognize nearby sites which are likely to have
> big servers and fast pipes.
>
> You may find your closest site(s) overloaded, slow, and connectivity
> intermittent, depending on the site ownership, day of week, time of day, network
> path to you, other users on the site and on your local ISP feeds.
>
> Avoid evenings and weekends, when many others nearby are downloading the newest
> Amazon Prime, Apple+. Disney+, Netflix, etc. series to binge watch, and your ISP
> is also throttling retail customers, to free up bandwidth for their business
> customers doing offsite streaming backups.
>
> Searching for an unofficial mirror at a nearby local university or (Unix) User
> Group publicly available on the internet may give you better results.
>
> Sometimes the closest mirrors may not be the fastest or most reliable, and ftp
> sites nowadays are slower, less available and reliable than http/https sites, as
> web sites get the big bucks, servers, memory, and pipes, but ftp sites may be
> kept around only as long as nothing goes wrong with their old server.
>
> Ping, traceroute, simple adhoc bandwidth and throughput tests will give you an
> idea of the best performance, and experience will tell you about reliability.
>
> Start by downloading only the base packges or upgrading what you have installed,
> and be patient during postinstall steps, as rebasing all the DLLs, and
> rebuilding updated pages in the man DB, can take a while with large upgrades or
> outdated installs.
>

If you are planning to install Cygwin on many hosts, using apt-cacher-ng
or alike might be of interest to you.

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Re: anyone interested in loading a portable drive?

[Brian Inglis]

On 2020-01-26 23:45, john doe wrote:
> On 1/27/2020 7:38 AM, Brian Inglis wrote:
>> On 2020-01-26 21:33, aimedtech wrote:
>>> Okay, this is a complaint.  I've spent the past few days trying to download
>>> the Cygwin system and gotten nowhere. I've tried several download
>>> environments, using different protocols, nothing works.
>>>
>>> And this is beyond being a pain, this is getting to be a real problem for
>>> me. No, that's not right -- it is a problem for me, NOW.
>>>
>>> I remember, I downloaded, installed it and used it, this was about a decade
>>> ago. Then, the area for naming the machine download sites would fill in
>>> automatically; Today, no. I chose a couple and tried them, one at a time.
>>> Neither worked
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if this message is to just tell you that your install is very
>>> broken and goodbye or if I'm asking for help.
>>>
>>> I am willing to send someone a USB 1TB drive and pay $50 bucks to load it
>>> and send it back. If that's what I do I want everything. The works.
>> This is an all-volunteer project and mirrors are donated by the server owners.
>>
>> Weekends are busy times for backups and security upgrades on publicly accessible
>> free servers, and if there are problems, support may not be available until the
>> next work day, after serious production issues are dealt with.
>>
>> Similarly for answers and support from here.
>>
>> The world has changed and Cygwin has become larger in the last decade (148GB
>> according to the Mirrors page).
>>
>> You *MUST* download the latest x86/_64 installer from the home page
>> setup-x86/_64.exe links to get the latest active mirrors and use the current key:
>>
>> 	https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe
>> 	https://cygwin.com/setup-x86.exe
>>
>> Selection from the latest active mirrors to use is easiest by browsing the
>> linked Mirror Sites page:
>>
>> 	https://cygwin.com/mirrors.html
>>
>> and you should see if you can recognize nearby sites which are likely to have
>> big servers and fast pipes.
>>
>> You may find your closest site(s) overloaded, slow, and connectivity
>> intermittent, depending on the site ownership, day of week, time of day, network
>> path to you, other users on the site and on your local ISP feeds.
>>
>> Avoid evenings and weekends, when many others nearby are downloading the newest
>> Amazon Prime, Apple+. Disney+, Netflix, etc. series to binge watch, and your ISP
>> is also throttling retail customers, to free up bandwidth for their business
>> customers doing offsite streaming backups.
>>
>> Searching for an unofficial mirror at a nearby local university or (Unix) User
>> Group publicly available on the internet may give you better results.
>>
>> Sometimes the closest mirrors may not be the fastest or most reliable, and ftp
>> sites nowadays are slower, less available and reliable than http/https sites, as
>> web sites get the big bucks, servers, memory, and pipes, but ftp sites may be
>> kept around only as long as nothing goes wrong with their old server.
>>
>> Ping, traceroute, simple adhoc bandwidth and throughput tests will give you an
>> idea of the best performance, and experience will tell you about reliability.
>>
>> Start by downloading only the base packges or upgrading what you have installed,
>> and be patient during postinstall steps, as rebasing all the DLLs, and
>> rebuilding updated pages in the man DB, can take a while with large upgrades or
>> outdated installs.
>>
> 
> If you are planning to install Cygwin on many hosts, using apt-cacher-ng
> or alike might be of interest to you.

That package is a proxy which is limited, and problematic in many environments
where it might be of use.
Cygwin packages are available for httpd and nginx proxies.

As cygwin setup-x86{,_64} already maintains a cache under

	*-l*, *--local-package-dir* /DIR/ Local package directory

syncing updates to that around would suffice.

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Re: anyone interested in loading a portable drive?

[Bill Stewart]

On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 9:33 PM aimedtech wrote:

> Okay, this is a complaint.  I've spent the past few days trying to download the Cygwin system and gotten nowhere.  I've tried several download
> environments, using different protocols, nothing works.

Remember that we can't see your screen.

When you say that something didn't work, you have to say how it didn't
work. https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20100421-00/?p=14283

First, try reading the error message.
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20090625-00/?p=17753

Bill

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Re: anyone interested in loading a portable drive?

[Brian Inglis]

On 2020-01-27 09:17, Bill Stewart wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 9:33 PM aimedtech wrote:
> 
>> Okay, this is a complaint.  I've spent the past few days trying to
>> download the Cygwin system and gotten nowhere.  I've tried several
>> download environments, using different protocols, nothing works.
> 
> Remember that we can't see your screen.
> 
> When you say that something didn't work, you have to say how it didn't
> work. https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20100421-00/?p=14283
> 
> First, try reading the error message.
> https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20090625-00/?p=17753

You said your install is a decade old: rename any old /etc/passwd or /etc/group
files as those could cause problems nowadays if not regenerated, and you no
longer really need them, and should consult the User Guide for those uses.

Don't use user names, home, root, or package directory names with spaces, or C:\
as root directory: you should have full control over those directories, and run
setup with an admin id so it can run elevated.

Select only the packages you need to install, as all packages take 148GB, which
will take a while to download, as long to install, and a lot of virtual memory
to run (assuming you're installing a 64 bit system, and have a lot of paging
space; if not, it won't install and won't run, as installing a lot of packages
using a lot of DLLs may require more than 3-4GB address space).

You should stop and exit all Cygwin processes so none are running while you run
setup.

See https://cygwin.com/faq/faq.html#faq.setup.setup-fails

Most problems with setup are network problems: in case it's not network, attach
setup.log.full (possibly in /var/log/ or the directory from which you ran setup)
as a plain text attachment for diagnosis.

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