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From: Roland Hughes <roland@logikalsolutions.com>
To: Arjen Markus <arjen.markus895@gmail.com>
Cc: Bernhard Reutner-Fischer <rep.dot.nop@gmail.com>,
	Roland Hughes via Fortran <fortran@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: F77 indexed file support
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 09:19:54 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5cc332de-c0d0-e634-776c-32705dccc504@logikalsolutions.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMCbSMqPzW1RKaawyOXF4ZZcNtoNaqAf6_v2FP3C3WUr1r=9jw@mail.gmail.com>

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That would have been a 360/370 IBM Mini. The 3270 was the "smart" terminal.

https://imgs.search.brave.com/9CW5yhzliePl3PmZJJad0-GoiArzOyOIKkKfa0cntW8/rs:fit:640:540:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBp/bmltZy5jb20vb3Jp/Z2luYWxzLzRlL2Nk/L2JlLzRlY2RiZTBl/YjQ0YmFlNGUzOTQ4/YjVlNDk2MWY1OWMx/LmpwZw

Yes, I use database libraries all the time with C/C++. Given Gnu COBOL 
had utilized the Berkley DB so they could provide full (or at least 
nearly complete) language syntax I had hoped Gnu Fortran did the same.

C/C++ never provided any indexed file or "record" level support. FORTRAN 
always did, so I had hopes.

Thanks,

Roland

On 3/8/23 08:30, Arjen Markus wrote:
> Well, that is indeed something completely different.My main frame of 
> reference (pun not intentional) of that era was our IBM mini, I am not 
> quite sure of the type number, 3270? It had a very specific record 
> structure for unformatted files. Normally that was almost completely 
> hidden, except in the job control, but when we started exchanging data 
> files with the personal computers that were then coming out, I could 
> write programs that did the necessary conversions. Jolly good fun. My 
> department did not use VAXes, other departments did.
>
> So, in your case these files contain data identifiable via some index. 
> Hm, today you would do that via some library instead of via some 
> builtin language feature, at least when using Fortran, C, C++, ...
>
> Regards,
>
> Arjen
>
> Op wo 8 mrt 2023 om 14:31 schreef Roland Hughes via Fortran 
> <fortran@gcc.gnu.org>:
>
>     Thank you!
>
>
>     On 3/8/2023 1:57 AM, Bernhard Reutner-Fischer wrote:
>     > On 7 March 2023 23:18:58 CET, Roland Hughes via Fortran
>     <fortran@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
>     >
>     > [ snip namelist IO ]
>     >
>     >> Btw, is there a "search" utility for the archives or do I have
>     to pull down all of the zip files, unzip into directory, and grep
>     to look for stuff like this? I'm guessing it has come up before.
>     > Indeed we have
>     > https://inbox.sourceware.org/fortran/
>     >
>     > along the traditional pipermail ml interface.
>     >
>     > thanks,
>
>     -- 
>     Roland Hughes, President
>     Logikal Solutions
>     (630)-205-1593  (cell)
>     http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com
>     http://www.infiniteexposure.net
>     http://www.johnsmith-book.com
>
-- 
Roland Hughes, President
Logikal Solutions
(630)-205-1593

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-08 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-07 22:18 Roland Hughes
2023-03-07 22:58 ` Thomas Koenig
2023-03-08  5:32   ` Arjen Markus
2023-03-08 13:31     ` Roland Hughes
2023-03-08  7:57 ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2023-03-08 13:32   ` Roland Hughes
2023-03-08 14:30     ` Arjen Markus
2023-03-08 15:19       ` Roland Hughes [this message]
2023-03-09  8:09         ` Arjen Markus

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