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From: "Martin Liška" <mliska@suse.cz>
To: Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>
Cc: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Jan Hubicka <hubicka@ucw.cz>,
	rui314@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lto-plugin: add support for feature detection
Date: Mon, 9 May 2022 11:05:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <62cd2acb-7072-5f9e-a787-ae02a605fbd5@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80f37f2-efdf-673-a8f4-69f2d5842ea2@ispras.ru>

CCing mold's author.

On 5/6/22 16:46, Alexander Monakov wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 5 May 2022, Martin Liška wrote:
> 
>> On 5/5/22 12:52, Alexander Monakov wrote:
>>> Feels a bit weird to ask, but before entertaining such an API extension,
>>> can we step back and understand the v3 variant of get_symbols? It is not
>>> documented, and from what little I saw I did not get the "motivation" for
>>> its existence (what it is doing that couldn't be done with the v2 api).
>>
>> Please see here:
>> https://github.com/rui314/mold/issues/181#issuecomment-1037927757
> 
> Thanks. I've also re-read [1] and [2] which provided some relevant ideas.
> 
> [1] https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=86490
> [2] https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=23411
> 
> 
> OK, so the crux of the issue is that sometimes the linker needs to feed the
> compiler plugin with LTO .o files extracted from static archives. This is
> not really obvious, because normally .a archives have an index that enumerates
> symbols defined/used by its .o files, and even during LTO the linker can simply
> consult the index to find out which members to extract.  In theory, at least.
> 
> The theory breaks in the following cases:
> 
>  - ld.bfd and common symbols (I wonder if weak/comdat code is also affected?):
>  archive index does not indicate which definitions are common, so ld.bfd
>  extracts the member and feeds it to the plugin to find out;
> 
>  - ld.gold and emulated archives via --start-lib a.o b.o ... --end-lib: here
>  there's no index to consult and ld.gold feeds each .o to the plugin.
> 
> In those cases it may happen that the linker extracts an .o file that would
> not be extracted during non-LTO link, and if that happens, the linker needs to
> inform the plugin. This is not the same as marking each symbol from spuriously
> extracted .o file as PREEMPTED when the .o file has constructors (the plugin
> will assume the constructors are kept while the linker needs to discard them).
> 
> So get_symbols_v3 allows the linker to discard an LTO .o file to solve this.
> 
> In absence of get_symbols_v3 mold tries to ensure correctness by restarting
> itself while appending a list of .o files to be discarded to its command line.
> 
> I wonder if mold can invoke plugin cleanup callback to solve this without
> restarting.
> 
> (also, hm, it seems to confirm my idea that LTO .o files should have had the
> correct symbol table so normal linker algorithms would work)
> 
> Hopefully this was useful.
> Alexander


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-09  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-02  7:51 [PATCH] Support LDPT_GET_SYMBOLS_V3 Martin Liška
2022-05-04 12:20 ` [PATCH] lto-plugin: add support for feature detection Martin Liška
2022-05-04 12:32   ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-04 12:41     ` Martin Liška
2022-05-04 13:10       ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-04 13:31         ` Martin Liška
2022-05-04 15:06           ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2022-05-05  6:15           ` Richard Biener
2022-05-05  6:31             ` Richard Biener
2022-05-05 10:52               ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-05 12:50                 ` Martin Liška
2022-05-06 14:46                   ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-09  9:05                     ` Martin Liška [this message]
2022-05-15  6:57                     ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-15  7:53                       ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-15  8:07                         ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-15  8:50                           ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-15 10:01                             ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-15 10:09                               ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-15 10:32                                 ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-15 11:37                                   ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-15 11:52                                     ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-15 12:07                                       ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16  2:41                                         ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-16  6:38                                           ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16  8:37                                             ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-16  9:10                                               ` Richard Biener
2022-05-16  9:15                                                 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16  9:25                                                 ` Jan Hubicka
2022-05-16  9:38                                                   ` Martin Liška
2022-05-16  9:50                                                     ` Jan Hubicka
2022-05-16 10:22                                                       ` Richard Biener
2022-05-16  9:58                                                     ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-16 10:28                                                       ` Richard Biener
2022-05-16 10:44                                                         ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-16 12:04                                                         ` Martin Liška
2022-05-16 13:07                                                           ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-16 13:38                                                             ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16 15:16                                                           ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-17  6:20                                                             ` Richard Biener
2022-05-17 13:44                                                             ` Martin Liška
2022-06-16  6:59                                                               ` [PATCH 1/3] lto-plugin: support LDPT_GET_SYMBOLS_V3 Martin Liška
2022-06-20  9:23                                                                 ` Richard Biener
2022-06-16  7:01                                                               ` [PATCH 2/3] lto-plugin: make claim_file_handler thread-safe Martin Liška
2022-06-20  9:32                                                                 ` Richard Biener
2022-06-20 10:20                                                                   ` Martin Liška
2022-06-21  7:56                                                                     ` Richard Biener
2022-06-21  8:43                                                                       ` Martin Liška
2022-06-24  8:37                                                                         ` Richard Biener
2022-06-16  7:01                                                               ` [PATCH 3/3] lto-plugin: implement LDPT_GET_API_VERSION Martin Liška
2022-06-16  8:00                                                                 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-06-16 12:25                                                                   ` Martin Liška
2022-06-20  9:35                                                                     ` Richard Biener
2022-06-20 13:01                                                                       ` Martin Liška
2022-06-30  6:43                                                                         ` Rui Ueyama
2022-06-30  8:42                                                                           ` Martin Liška
2022-07-01  6:36                                                                             ` Richard Biener
2022-07-04 14:17                                                                               ` Martin Liška
2022-07-07  2:19                                                                                 ` Rui Ueyama
2022-07-08  8:42                                                                                   ` Martin Liška
2022-07-08 12:41                                                                                     ` Alexander Monakov
2022-07-11  7:23                                                                                       ` Rui Ueyama
2022-07-11  9:16                                                                                         ` Alexander Monakov
2022-07-11  9:55                                                                                           ` Richard Biener
2022-07-11 10:51                                                                                             ` Martin Liška
2022-07-11 12:24                                                                                               ` Rui Ueyama
2022-07-11 12:38                                                                                                 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-07-11 12:51                                                                                                 ` Martin Liška
2022-07-12  1:36                                                                                                   ` Rui Ueyama
2022-07-11 16:35                                                                                               ` Alexander Monakov
2022-07-12  6:28                                                                                                 ` Richard Biener
2022-07-12  7:36                                                                                                   ` Martin Liška
2022-07-12 11:50                                                                                                     ` Rui Ueyama
2022-07-12 13:21                                                                                                       ` Richard Biener
2022-07-12 13:31                                                                                                       ` Martin Liška
2022-07-13  7:44                                                                                                         ` Rui Ueyama

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