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From: Rui Ueyama <rui314@gmail.com>
To: Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>
Cc: "Martin Liška" <mliska@suse.cz>,
	"GCC Patches" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	"Jan Hubicka" <hubicka@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lto-plugin: add support for feature detection
Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 16:37:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACKH++bw3ktOrTF0zncJp6=DeHqMHOdcpn9V2dK-sOhv_wvBPA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <245cc396-ad40-cb98-b171-e56e3d9c1c2@ispras.ru>

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 2:38 PM Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 16 May 2022, Rui Ueyama wrote:
>
> > If it is a guaranteed behavior that GCC of all versions that support
> > only get_symbols_v2 don't leave a temporary file behind if it is
> > suddenly disrupted during get_symbols_v2 execution, then yes, mold can
> > restart itself when get_symbols_v2 is called for the first time.
> >
> > Is this what you want? I'm fine with that approach if it is guaranteed
> > to work by GCC developers.
>
> I cannot answer that, hopefully someone in Cc: will. This sub-thread started
> with Richard proposing an alternative solution for API level discovery [1]
> (invoking onload twice, first with only the _v3 entrypoint in the "transfer
> vector"), and then suggesting an onload_v2 variant that would allow to
> discover which entrypoints the plugin is going to use [2].
>
> [1] https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2022-May/594058.html
> [2] https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2022-May/594059.html
>
> ... at which point I butted in, because the whole _v3 thing was shrouded in
> mystery. Hopefully, now it makes more sense.
>
>
> From my side I want to add that thread-safety remains a major unsolved point.
> Compiler driver _always_ adds the plugin to linker command line, so I expect
> that if you add a mutex around your claim_file hook invocation, you'll find
> that it serializes the linker too much. Have you given some thought to that?
> Will you be needing a plugin API upgrade to discover thread-safe entrypoints,
> or do you have another solution in mind?

From my linker's point of view, the easiest way to handle the
situation is to implement a logic like this:

if (gcc_version >= 12.2)
  assume that claim_file_hook is thread safe
else
  assume that claim_file_hook is not thread safe

And that is also _very_ useful to identify the existence of
get_symbols_v3, because we can do the same thing with s/12.2/12.1/.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-16  8:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-02  7:51 [PATCH] Support LDPT_GET_SYMBOLS_V3 Martin Liška
2022-05-04 12:20 ` [PATCH] lto-plugin: add support for feature detection Martin Liška
2022-05-04 12:32   ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-04 12:41     ` Martin Liška
2022-05-04 13:10       ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-04 13:31         ` Martin Liška
2022-05-04 15:06           ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2022-05-05  6:15           ` Richard Biener
2022-05-05  6:31             ` Richard Biener
2022-05-05 10:52               ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-05 12:50                 ` Martin Liška
2022-05-06 14:46                   ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-09  9:05                     ` Martin Liška
2022-05-15  6:57                     ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-15  7:53                       ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-15  8:07                         ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-15  8:50                           ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-15 10:01                             ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-15 10:09                               ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-15 10:32                                 ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-15 11:37                                   ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-15 11:52                                     ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-15 12:07                                       ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16  2:41                                         ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-16  6:38                                           ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16  8:37                                             ` Rui Ueyama [this message]
2022-05-16  9:10                                               ` Richard Biener
2022-05-16  9:15                                                 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16  9:25                                                 ` Jan Hubicka
2022-05-16  9:38                                                   ` Martin Liška
2022-05-16  9:50                                                     ` Jan Hubicka
2022-05-16 10:22                                                       ` Richard Biener
2022-05-16  9:58                                                     ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-16 10:28                                                       ` Richard Biener
2022-05-16 10:44                                                         ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-16 12:04                                                         ` Martin Liška
2022-05-16 13:07                                                           ` Rui Ueyama
2022-05-16 13:38                                                             ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16 15:16                                                           ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-17  6:20                                                             ` Richard Biener
2022-05-17 13:44                                                             ` Martin Liška
2022-06-16  6:59                                                               ` [PATCH 1/3] lto-plugin: support LDPT_GET_SYMBOLS_V3 Martin Liška
2022-06-20  9:23                                                                 ` Richard Biener
2022-06-16  7:01                                                               ` [PATCH 2/3] lto-plugin: make claim_file_handler thread-safe Martin Liška
2022-06-20  9:32                                                                 ` Richard Biener
2022-06-20 10:20                                                                   ` Martin Liška
2022-06-21  7:56                                                                     ` Richard Biener
2022-06-21  8:43                                                                       ` Martin Liška
2022-06-24  8:37                                                                         ` Richard Biener
2022-06-16  7:01                                                               ` [PATCH 3/3] lto-plugin: implement LDPT_GET_API_VERSION Martin Liška
2022-06-16  8:00                                                                 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-06-16 12:25                                                                   ` Martin Liška
2022-06-20  9:35                                                                     ` Richard Biener
2022-06-20 13:01                                                                       ` Martin Liška
2022-06-30  6:43                                                                         ` Rui Ueyama
2022-06-30  8:42                                                                           ` Martin Liška
2022-07-01  6:36                                                                             ` Richard Biener
2022-07-04 14:17                                                                               ` Martin Liška
2022-07-07  2:19                                                                                 ` Rui Ueyama
2022-07-08  8:42                                                                                   ` Martin Liška
2022-07-08 12:41                                                                                     ` Alexander Monakov
2022-07-11  7:23                                                                                       ` Rui Ueyama
2022-07-11  9:16                                                                                         ` Alexander Monakov
2022-07-11  9:55                                                                                           ` Richard Biener
2022-07-11 10:51                                                                                             ` Martin Liška
2022-07-11 12:24                                                                                               ` Rui Ueyama
2022-07-11 12:38                                                                                                 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-07-11 12:51                                                                                                 ` Martin Liška
2022-07-12  1:36                                                                                                   ` Rui Ueyama
2022-07-11 16:35                                                                                               ` Alexander Monakov
2022-07-12  6:28                                                                                                 ` Richard Biener
2022-07-12  7:36                                                                                                   ` Martin Liška
2022-07-12 11:50                                                                                                     ` Rui Ueyama
2022-07-12 13:21                                                                                                       ` Richard Biener
2022-07-12 13:31                                                                                                       ` Martin Liška
2022-07-13  7:44                                                                                                         ` Rui Ueyama

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