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From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com>
Cc: 钟居哲 <juzhe.zhong@rivai.ai>, gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	"kito.cheng" <kito.cheng@gmail.com>, palmer <palmer@dabbelt.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RISC-V: Fix RVV mask mode size
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 08:44:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFiYyc2pbx43X4_gObAX3yGrLFiiJKa_NvqfUJb2Wjkfa4Hzmw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <75eb29fd-6449-e2d1-2702-d297373cecf3@gmail.com>

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 2:54 AM Jeff Law via Gcc-patches
<gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 12/16/22 18:44, 钟居哲 wrote:
> > Yes, VNx4DF only has 4 bit in mask mode in case of load and store.
> > For example vlm or vsm we will load store 8-bit ??? (I am not sure
> > hardward can load store 4bit,but I am sure it definetly not load store
> > the whole register size)
> Most likely than not you end up loading a larger quantity with the high
> bits zero'd.  Interesting that we're using a packed model.  I'd been
> told it was fairly expensive to implement in hardware relative to teh
> cost of implementing the sparse model.

Since the masks are extra inputs if you use a packed model you need
to wire less bits into the execution units for the masks which I guess
is actually cheaper.  Yes, producing the masks might be more complicated.

> > So ideally it should be model more accurate. However, since GCC assumes
> > that 1 BOOL is 1-byte, the only thing I do is to model mask mode as
> > smallest as possible.
> > Maybe in the future, I can support 1BOOL for 1-bit?? I am not sure since
> > it will need to change GCC framework.
> I'm a bit confused by this.  GCC can support single bit bools, though
> ports often extend them to 8 bits or more for computational efficiency
> purposes.  At least that's the case in general.  Is there something
> particularly special about masks & bools that's causing problems?

The only "issue" might be with 4, 2 and 1 bit masks which would
have a size of 8 bits but a precision of less that endianess might
play a role.

Btw, this is all similar to AVX512 where we even don't use
vector BI modes but integer modes for the mask which
then becomes QImode for 1, 2, 4 and 8 bit masks and
HImode for 16, SImode for 32 and DImode for 64 bit masks.

Richard.

> Jeff

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-12-19  7:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-14  6:48 juzhe.zhong
2022-12-16 20:22 ` Jeff Law
2022-12-17  1:44   ` 钟居哲
2022-12-17  1:53     ` Jeff Law
2022-12-17  2:15       ` 钟居哲
2022-12-19  7:44       ` Richard Biener [this message]
2022-12-27 20:46         ` Jeff Law
2023-01-09  7:43           ` Richard Biener

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