From: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
To: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] riscv: implement TARGET_MODE_REP_EXTENDED
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 00:59:42 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <mhng-e4dce020-d609-417b-971e-efa23fd85c51@palmer-ri-x1c9> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4d4edef0-8a44-d6b8-0f50-1abd7f5e91f4@gmail.com>
On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 16:48:24 PDT (-0700), gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org wrote:
>
> On 9/6/22 05:39, Alexander Monakov via Gcc-patches wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Sep 2022, Philipp Tomsich wrote:
>>
>>> +riscv_mode_rep_extended (scalar_int_mode mode, scalar_int_mode mode_rep)
>>> +{
>>> + /* On 64-bit targets, SImode register values are sign-extended to DImode. */
>>> + if (TARGET_64BIT && mode == SImode && mode_rep == DImode)
>>> + return SIGN_EXTEND;
>> I think this leads to a counter-intuitive requirement that a hand-written
>> inline asm must sign-extend its output operands that are bound to either
>> signed or unsigned 32-bit lvalues. Will compiler users be aware of that?
>
> Is this significantly different than on MIPS? Hand-written code there
> also has to ensure that the results are properly sign extended and it's
> been that way for 20+ years since the introduction of mips64 IIRC.
> Though I don't think we had MODE_REP_EXTENDED that long.
IMO the problem isn't so much that asm has this constraint, it's that
it's a new constraint and thus risks breaking code that used to work.
That said...
> Haha, MIPS is the only target that currently defines
> TARGET_MODE_REP_EXTENDED :-)
>
>
>
>>
>> Moreover, without adjusting TARGET_TRULY_NOOP_TRUNCATION this should cause
>> miscompilation when a 64-bit variable is truncated to 32 bits: the pre-existing
>> hook says that nothing needs to be done to truncate, but the new hook says
>> that the result of the truncation is properly sign-extended.
>>
>> The documentation for TARGET_MODE_REP_EXTENDED warns about that:
>>
>> In order to enforce the representation of mode, TARGET_TRULY_NOOP_TRUNCATION
>> should return false when truncating to mode.
>
> This may well need adjusting in Philipp's patch. I'd be surprised if
> the MIPS definition wasn't usable nearly verbatim here.
Yes, and we have a few MIPS-isms in the ISA but don't have the same
flavor of TRULY_NOOP_TRUNCATION. It's been pointed out a handful of
times and I'm not sure what the right way to go is here, every time I
try and reason about which is going to produce better code I come up
with a different answer. IIRC last time I looked at this I came to the
conclusion that we're doing the right thing for RISC-V because most of
our instructions implicitly truncate. It's pretty easy to generate bad
code here and I'm pretty sure we could fix some of that by moving to a
more MIPS-like TRULY_MODE_TRUNCATION, but I think we'd end up just
pushing the problems around.
Every time I look at this I also get worried that we've leaked some of
these internal promotion rules into something visible to inline asm, but
when I poke around it seems like things generally work.
>
>
> jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-17 7:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-05 21:44 Philipp Tomsich
2022-09-06 11:39 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-09-16 23:48 ` Jeff Law
2022-09-17 7:59 ` Palmer Dabbelt [this message]
2022-11-04 23:00 ` Philipp Tomsich
2022-11-05 6:16 ` [PATCH] [PHIOPT] Add A ? B + CST : B match and simplify optimizations Zhongyunde
2022-11-05 6:34 ` Andrew Pinski
2022-11-05 9:03 ` Zhongyunde
2022-11-08 14:58 ` Richard Biener
2022-11-08 15:51 ` 钟云德
2022-11-09 8:00 ` Richard Biener
2022-11-07 13:55 ` [PATCH] riscv: implement TARGET_MODE_REP_EXTENDED Alexander Monakov
2022-11-08 23:45 ` Philipp Tomsich
2022-11-09 17:21 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-11-20 16:09 ` Jeff Law
2022-11-21 13:49 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-11-21 14:56 ` Jeff Law
2022-11-21 15:33 ` Alexander Monakov
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