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From: Zoran Zaric <zoran.zaric@amd.com>
To: Simon Marchi <simon.marchi@polymtl.ca>,
	Lancelot SIX <lsix@lancelotsix.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/28] Add read method to location description classes
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 11:58:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9a622124-3261-2bc5-6c55-8acdbe97c7ef@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <461d4faa-95d0-1d7e-13db-13fbf3fc00d5@polymtl.ca>



On 11/3/21 7:03 PM, Simon Marchi wrote:
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> 
>> The problem that I have with this idea is that DWARF doesn't speak in
>> terms of addressable memory units, but in terms of byte representation of an architecture.
>>
>> The addressable memory units only describe what an underlying memory read write interface need to consider, but from a location description point of view we need a byte/bit correlation that describes all location description kinds uniformly and the addressable memory units is not it.
>>
>> For example, how would this work in the case of registers? In most architectures they are only addressable as a whole.
>>
>> Another problem here is that the m_offset is not equivalent to offset
>> or embedded offset from struct value. This is especially true for memory location descriptions where the m_offset member is an offset from the beginning of the memory location as a whole aka the address itself.
>>
>> Previously the only way to add an offset to a memory location is to implicitly convert it to the value on the expression stack, add an offset to it and then convert it back to an address. This means that if the expression yielded unaddressable address, the read would just fail and the gdb would not try to compensate by reading more then copy with an offset.
>>
>> Considering all of this, the only correct thing to do here is either use hard coded value of 8 (like was done before my changes) or use the TARGET_BYTE_CHAR instead until there is a need for a proper byte/bit correlation target hook.
>>
>> I can also see that we are using gdbarch_addressable_memory_unit_size
>> call for some struct value API (for example value_contents_copy) for offset and embedded offset regardless of the location description kind.
>>
>> This is obviously wrong, but it was not detected from the DWARF side because the only way how one can add an offset to a register location is through the lval_computed interface which goes around these issues.
>>
>> Because now this is not the case, I can solve this issue by making sure that when a dwarf_entry class is converted to a struct value object, the struct value offset member (and the corresponding bit offset member) are still talking about offset in terms of addressable units for all locations description kinds.
> 
> I spoke with Zoran offline about this.  In the end, the conclusion is
> that there are too many unknowns on how things are expected to work with
> non-8-bit-bytes targets.  On one hand, the DWARF standard makes it
> sound (section 1.3.2 of DWARF 5) like a "byte" can be other sizes than 8
> bits:
> 
>      DWARF can be used with a wide range of processor architectures, whether byte
>      or word oriented, linear or segmented, with any word or byte size.
> 
> So when you apply an offset measured in bytes in a location, that would
> be using the target processor byte size.  And that would apply to all
> locations, registers, memory and others (especially since you want to
> treat all locations kinds the same).
> 
> But as you have mentioned, all areas of GDB are not consistent regarding
> this.  Some code paths today use an hard-coded 8 when applying offsets.
> I think this is more related to the fact that when we upstreamed these
> bits (in my previous life), we changed whatever code paths our GDB was
> taking, not all.
> 
> Since there isn't even one architecture upstream using non-8-bit-bytes,
> you can't even take a peek to see how it works.  So I would say, do
> whatever is the easiest for you (except using TARGET_CHAR_BIT :)).  If
> that's assuming 8-bit offsets everywhere, go for it.  If it's using
> gdbarch_addressable_memory_unit_size-sized offsets for all location
> kinds, go for it.  This means the behavior of GDB for non-8-bit-bytes
> target can change, but IMO that's ok.  The current code is likely not
> entirely correct as is anyway.  And if somebody downstream is still
> using GDB for such a target, they'll have to contribute fixes if they
> want to.  We can't guess what's right.  And if nobody is using such a
> target downstream, then it doesn't change anything.
> 
> Simon
> 

I agree with this. Also, the reason why I use the HOST_CHAR_SIZE is 
because Pedro Alves suggested for me to use it instead of the hard coded 
number 8 because apparently, that constant is always guaranteed to have 
a value 8.

Thanks for all the reviews guys. I've just uploaded a new series with 
all the fixes.

Zoran

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-05 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-14  9:32 [PATCH v3 00/28] Allow location description on the DWARF stack Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 01/28] Add new register access interface to expr.c Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 02/28] Add new memory " Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 03/28] Add new classes that model DWARF stack element Zoran Zaric
2021-10-21 23:43   ` Lancelot SIX
2021-10-22 16:38     ` Zoran Zaric
2021-10-22 21:34       ` Lancelot SIX
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 04/28] Add to_location method to DWARF entry classes Zoran Zaric
2021-10-22 21:21   ` Lancelot SIX
2021-10-25 21:23     ` Simon Marchi
2021-11-01 16:01       ` Zoran Zaric
2021-11-01 20:36         ` Simon Marchi
2021-11-01 16:00     ` Zoran Zaric
2021-11-01 17:48       ` Lancelot SIX
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 05/28] Add to_value " Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 06/28] Add read method to location description classes Zoran Zaric
2021-10-25 18:33   ` Lancelot SIX
2021-10-25 21:37     ` Simon Marchi
2021-11-02 14:26       ` Zoran Zaric
2021-11-03 19:03         ` Simon Marchi
2021-11-05 11:58           ` Zoran Zaric [this message]
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 07/28] Add write " Zoran Zaric
2021-10-25 20:21   ` Lancelot SIX
2021-11-03 10:27     ` Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 08/28] Add deref " Zoran Zaric
2021-10-25 22:31   ` Lancelot SIX
2021-11-03 10:51     ` Zoran Zaric
2021-11-03 17:37       ` Simon Marchi
2021-11-05 11:55         ` Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 09/28] Add read_from_gdb_value method to dwarf_location Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 10/28] Add write_to_gdb_value " Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 11/28] Add is_implicit_ptr_at " Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 12/28] Add indirect_implicit_ptr to dwarf_location class Zoran Zaric
2021-10-26 20:52   ` Lancelot SIX
2021-11-03 15:11     ` Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 13/28] Add is_optimized_out " Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 14/28] Add new computed struct value callback interface Zoran Zaric
2021-10-26 22:50   ` Lancelot SIX
2021-11-04 11:32     ` Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 15/28] Add to_gdb_value method to DWARF entry class Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 16/28] Change DWARF stack to use new dwarf_entry classes Zoran Zaric
2021-10-31 17:58   ` Lancelot SIX
2021-11-04 12:43     ` Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 17/28] Remove old computed struct value callbacks Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 18/28] Comments cleanup between expr.h and expr.c Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 19/28] Remove dwarf_expr_context from expr.h interface Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 20/28] Move read_addr_from_reg function to frame.c Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 21/28] Add frame info check to DW_OP_reg operations Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 22/28] Remove DWARF expression composition check Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 23/28] Add support for any location description in CFI Zoran Zaric
2021-10-31 22:58   ` Lancelot SIX
2021-11-04 15:09     ` Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 24/28] Add DWARF operations for byte and bit offset Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 25/28] Add support for DW_OP_LLVM_undefined operation Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 26/28] Add support for nested composite locations Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 27/28] Add DW_OP_LLVM_extend DWARF operation Zoran Zaric
2021-11-01 21:48   ` Lancelot SIX
2021-11-04 16:26     ` Zoran Zaric
2021-10-14  9:32 ` [PATCH v3 28/28] Add DW_OP_LLVM_select_bit_piece " Zoran Zaric
2021-11-01 22:25   ` Lancelot SIX
2021-11-04 16:39     ` Zoran Zaric
2021-11-05 11:54 ` [PATCH v3 00/28] Allow location description on the DWARF stack Zaric, Zoran (Zare)

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