From: Stan Shebs <stanshebs@earthlink.net>
To: gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Will therefore GDB utilize C++ or not?
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:29:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50B41784.2080606@earthlink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121122184637.GA29474@host2.jankratochvil.net>
On 11/22/12 10:46 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 20:41:31 +0200, Pedro Alves wrote:
>> If you asked me not too long ago, I'd have been strongly in favor
>> of C++. However, that is no longer the case. I'm now pending
>> towards "no C++".
> I have re-read now the thread and I have not found any blocker issues left.
>
> Here is a plan that should IMHO satisfy all the requirements stated here.
> I did not reply to C++ disagreements which were already well enough replied
> here.
>
>
> Current gdbserver will be also in C++.
>
> For most embedded Linux kernel targets it will be enough to build the standard
> fully featured gdbserver with static libstdc++ (making it only ~2x larger).
>
> There will be also separate minimal gdbserver in plain C. For some very
> minimal targets still running Linux kernel but no longer having C++-capable
> compiler or having some other problem running C++. There was stated no
> concrete such target but maybe there exists one. This minimal server has no
> need for non-stop/multi-inferior etc., it will be created by stripping down
> the current one; but in fact one can be also easily code it from scratch.
>
I think for this it should be sufficient to announce an end-of-C point
for gdbserver, tag it, and record it on a web page; while it's certainly
possible that someone in the future will have need for a C-only
gdbserver, I think the chances are vanishingly small, and we shouldn't
be using up too many brain cycles designing it.
People that are space-conscious are already using their own stubs or
forked versions of gdbserver. I note for instance that we nearly
doubled the size of gdbserver's code when we added target-side
tracepoint bits a couple years ago, and I don't recall any grousing
about it getting too big then. In a world where mega-programs like
Firefox fit easily onto a cell phone *now*, I'm not just seeing that any
future projects are going to be so tightly constrained that gdbserver
size is noticeable.
Stan
stan@codesourcery.com
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Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-30 16:14 Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-04 20:48 ` Tom Tromey
2012-04-04 21:55 ` Mark Kettenis
2012-04-05 3:31 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-04-05 11:46 ` Phil Muldoon
2012-04-06 0:35 ` Will therefore GDB utilize C++? Not John Gilmore
2012-04-06 1:35 ` Russell Shaw
2012-04-06 13:16 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-04-06 14:43 ` Russell Shaw
2012-04-06 15:34 ` Michael Eager
2012-04-06 23:32 ` John Gilmore
2012-04-07 1:04 ` Robert Dewar
2012-04-07 1:52 ` Thomas Dineen
2012-04-07 16:54 ` Michael Eager
2012-04-09 23:59 ` Stan Shebs
2012-04-05 0:22 ` Will therefore GDB utilize C++ or not? asmwarrior
2012-04-09 18:41 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-09 19:05 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-09 19:49 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-09 20:15 ` Paul Smith
2012-04-12 20:06 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2012-04-12 21:28 ` Paul_Koning
2012-04-13 0:04 ` Doug Evans
2012-04-18 14:10 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-18 20:27 ` Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 14:08 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-21 17:24 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2012-04-16 6:55 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-18 14:11 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-18 15:16 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-18 15:28 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-18 15:54 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-18 16:01 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-18 16:07 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-04-18 16:13 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-18 16:23 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-04-18 16:31 ` Joel Sherrill
2012-04-18 16:50 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-18 16:57 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-04-18 17:28 ` Joel Sherrill
2012-04-18 17:40 ` Paul_Koning
2012-04-18 20:37 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2012-04-18 20:38 ` Paul_Koning
2012-04-18 20:36 ` Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 17:48 ` John Gilmore
2012-04-18 19:07 ` Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 23:10 ` John Gilmore
2012-05-18 18:36 ` Tom Tromey
2012-05-18 18:47 ` Paul_Koning
2012-05-18 19:36 ` Tom Tromey
2012-05-18 19:44 ` Paul_Koning
2012-05-18 20:07 ` Tom Tromey
2012-05-18 20:41 ` Aurelian Melinte
2012-05-18 18:51 ` Lazy CU expansion (Was: Will therefore GDB utilize C++ or not?) Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 20:34 ` Will therefore GDB utilize C++ or not? Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 19:18 ` Will C++ proponents spend 20 minutes to try what they're proposing? John Gilmore
2012-04-18 19:23 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-18 20:40 ` Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 20:56 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-04-18 20:31 ` Will therefore GDB utilize C++ or not? Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 20:25 ` Tom Tromey
2012-05-21 18:11 ` Pedro Alves
2012-05-21 18:36 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-11-21 20:18 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-10 0:23 ` Yao Qi
2012-04-10 9:47 ` Yao Qi
2012-04-18 20:11 ` Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 20:31 ` Can it really be ok to map GPL'd code into any old process? John Gilmore
2012-04-18 20:36 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-23 18:03 ` Will therefore GDB utilize C++ or not? Tom Tromey
2012-05-18 19:55 ` Tom Tromey
2012-05-18 21:56 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-05-19 2:17 ` Tom Tromey
2012-05-19 15:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2012-05-19 21:36 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-05-20 12:16 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2012-05-21 15:56 ` Pedro Alves
2012-05-21 16:15 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-05-21 17:37 ` Paul_Koning
2012-05-21 17:58 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-05-22 18:03 ` Paul_Koning
2012-05-21 18:08 ` Pedro Alves
2012-05-21 18:08 ` Tom Tromey
2012-05-21 18:10 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-05-21 18:54 ` Matt Rice
2012-05-26 15:50 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-06-02 7:01 ` Russell Shaw
2012-06-02 7:13 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-06-02 10:47 ` Russell Shaw
2012-06-02 11:10 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-06-02 11:15 ` Russell Shaw
2012-06-02 11:15 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-11-22 18:46 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-11-22 21:42 ` John Gilmore
2012-11-23 15:26 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-11-27 1:29 ` Stan Shebs [this message]
2012-11-27 2:02 ` Paul_Koning
2012-11-27 2:59 ` Stan Shebs
2012-11-27 15:17 ` Paul_Koning
2012-11-27 21:14 ` Tom Tromey
2012-04-09 23:23 ` Stan Shebs
2012-04-18 14:22 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-18 18:12 ` Stan Shebs
2012-04-18 18:32 ` Paul_Koning
2012-04-18 18:37 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-19 8:43 ` Yao Qi
2012-12-04 14:17 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-04 14:44 ` Mark Kettenis
2012-12-04 14:52 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-06 20:39 ` Matt Rice
2012-12-07 12:57 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-07 13:25 ` Yao Qi
2012-12-11 6:25 ` Matt Rice
2012-12-13 15:12 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-14 11:03 ` Matt Rice
2012-12-14 12:16 ` Jan Kratochvil
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