From: Sergio Durigan Junior <sergiodj@redhat.com>
To: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
Cc: tromey@redhat.com, jan.kratochvil@redhat.com, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Will therefore GDB utilize C++ or not?
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:31:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3wr5uyhwg.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201204042155.q34LtJNB013402@glazunov.sibelius.xs4all.nl> (Mark Kettenis's message of "Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:55:19 +0200 (CEST)")
On Wednesday, April 04 2012, Mark Kettenis wrote:
>> From: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
>> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:47:39 -0600
>>
>> >>>>> "Jan" == Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>> Jan> To C++ or not to C++? Unfortunately the discussion was here
>> Jan> already before and I am aware several contributors are not welcome
>> Jan> with it, I think it does not need to affect readability of C code
>> Jan> much, there is not enough workforce to rewrite all the GDB code
>> Jan> into C++ style anyway. Still C++ would help a lot, some kinds of
>> Jan> bugs are not solvable without it.
>>
>> I'm strongly in favor of C++ for reasons I'll lay out below.
>
> And my position on this has not changed: I'm strongly against. C++ is
> horrible language that should never have been invented.
I believe I understand your "rationale", but I would like to know if the
approval (by the majority) and eventual use of C++ in GDB (mentioning,
again, that GDB will not be rewritten in C++) would make you stop
contributing to the project.
I am not a maintainer, and I understand that C++ is not the best
language out there, but I've seen (more than once) other people saying
that "if the project ABC adopts XYZ, then I'm out". I don't think this
is the most reasonable thing to do, and I'm pretty sure this kind of
behaviour slows down some kinds of progresses (such as this C++ thing),
mostly because nobody wants to miss talented (and needed!) people
contributing to the project, I think. That's why I'm asking you this
question (but really, I would be asking to anyone objecting with
arguments like "the language is horrible").
Thanks,
--
Sergio
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Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-30 16:14 Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-04 20:48 ` Tom Tromey
2012-04-04 21:55 ` Mark Kettenis
2012-04-05 3:31 ` Sergio Durigan Junior [this message]
2012-04-05 11:46 ` Phil Muldoon
2012-04-06 0:35 ` Will therefore GDB utilize C++? Not John Gilmore
2012-04-06 1:35 ` Russell Shaw
2012-04-06 13:16 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-04-06 14:43 ` Russell Shaw
2012-04-06 15:34 ` Michael Eager
2012-04-06 23:32 ` John Gilmore
2012-04-07 1:04 ` Robert Dewar
2012-04-07 1:52 ` Thomas Dineen
2012-04-07 16:54 ` Michael Eager
2012-04-09 23:59 ` Stan Shebs
2012-04-05 0:22 ` Will therefore GDB utilize C++ or not? asmwarrior
2012-04-09 18:41 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-09 19:05 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-09 19:49 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-09 20:15 ` Paul Smith
2012-04-12 20:06 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2012-04-12 21:28 ` Paul_Koning
2012-04-13 0:04 ` Doug Evans
2012-04-18 14:10 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-18 20:27 ` Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 14:08 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-21 17:24 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2012-04-16 6:55 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-18 14:11 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-18 15:16 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-18 15:28 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-18 15:54 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-18 16:01 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-18 16:07 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-04-18 16:13 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-18 16:23 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-04-18 16:31 ` Joel Sherrill
2012-04-18 16:50 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-18 16:57 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-04-18 17:28 ` Joel Sherrill
2012-04-18 17:40 ` Paul_Koning
2012-04-18 20:37 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2012-04-18 20:38 ` Paul_Koning
2012-04-18 20:36 ` Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 17:48 ` John Gilmore
2012-04-18 19:07 ` Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 23:10 ` John Gilmore
2012-05-18 18:36 ` Tom Tromey
2012-05-18 18:47 ` Paul_Koning
2012-05-18 19:36 ` Tom Tromey
2012-05-18 19:44 ` Paul_Koning
2012-05-18 20:07 ` Tom Tromey
2012-05-18 20:41 ` Aurelian Melinte
2012-05-18 18:51 ` Lazy CU expansion (Was: Will therefore GDB utilize C++ or not?) Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 20:34 ` Will therefore GDB utilize C++ or not? Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 19:18 ` Will C++ proponents spend 20 minutes to try what they're proposing? John Gilmore
2012-04-18 19:23 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-18 20:40 ` Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 20:56 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-04-18 20:31 ` Will therefore GDB utilize C++ or not? Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 20:25 ` Tom Tromey
2012-05-21 18:11 ` Pedro Alves
2012-05-21 18:36 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-11-21 20:18 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-10 0:23 ` Yao Qi
2012-04-10 9:47 ` Yao Qi
2012-04-18 20:11 ` Tom Tromey
2012-04-18 20:31 ` Can it really be ok to map GPL'd code into any old process? John Gilmore
2012-04-18 20:36 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-23 18:03 ` Will therefore GDB utilize C++ or not? Tom Tromey
2012-05-18 19:55 ` Tom Tromey
2012-05-18 21:56 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-05-19 2:17 ` Tom Tromey
2012-05-19 15:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2012-05-19 21:36 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-05-20 12:16 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2012-05-21 15:56 ` Pedro Alves
2012-05-21 16:15 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-05-21 17:37 ` Paul_Koning
2012-05-21 17:58 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-05-22 18:03 ` Paul_Koning
2012-05-21 18:08 ` Pedro Alves
2012-05-21 18:08 ` Tom Tromey
2012-05-21 18:10 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-05-21 18:54 ` Matt Rice
2012-05-26 15:50 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-06-02 7:01 ` Russell Shaw
2012-06-02 7:13 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-06-02 10:47 ` Russell Shaw
2012-06-02 11:10 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-06-02 11:15 ` Russell Shaw
2012-06-02 11:15 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-11-22 18:46 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-11-22 21:42 ` John Gilmore
2012-11-23 15:26 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-11-27 1:29 ` Stan Shebs
2012-11-27 2:02 ` Paul_Koning
2012-11-27 2:59 ` Stan Shebs
2012-11-27 15:17 ` Paul_Koning
2012-11-27 21:14 ` Tom Tromey
2012-04-09 23:23 ` Stan Shebs
2012-04-18 14:22 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-18 18:12 ` Stan Shebs
2012-04-18 18:32 ` Paul_Koning
2012-04-18 18:37 ` Pedro Alves
2012-04-19 8:43 ` Yao Qi
2012-12-04 14:17 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-04 14:44 ` Mark Kettenis
2012-12-04 14:52 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-06 20:39 ` Matt Rice
2012-12-07 12:57 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-07 13:25 ` Yao Qi
2012-12-11 6:25 ` Matt Rice
2012-12-13 15:12 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-14 11:03 ` Matt Rice
2012-12-14 12:16 ` Jan Kratochvil
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