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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: roucaries bastien <roucaries.bastien+debian@gmail.com>,
	Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org, "Alejandro Colomar" <alx@kernel.org>,
	GCC <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>, glibc <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	"Bastien Roucariès" <rouca@debian.org>,
	"Stefan Puiu" <stefan.puiu@gmail.com>,
	"Igor Sysoev" <igor@sysoev.ru>, "Rich Felker" <dalias@libc.org>,
	"Andrew Clayton" <a.clayton@nginx.com>,
	"Richard Biener" <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	"Zack Weinberg" <zack@owlfolio.org>,
	"Florian Weimer" <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	"Joseph Myers" <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	"Jakub Jelinek" <jakub@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sockaddr.3type: BUGS: Document that libc should be fixed using a union
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 11:49:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15fcdfb3-4029-343b-2867-d92445426ed3@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE2SPAbnWViwyrjz1s_X18RPtZyqZJj0d8_ib=oYcUgQhCsh8w@mail.gmail.com>


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Hi Bastien and Eric!

On 3/18/23 08:54, roucaries bastien wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have opened a defect at austin group
> https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1641

Sorry for not having prepared yet my report as I promised to Eric.
I've been busy with other stuff, but still had in mind doing it :).
But yes, basically that report is what I would have written, so you
have my +1.  ;)

Cheers,

Alex

> 
> Bastien
> 
> Le lun. 6 févr. 2023 à 18:45, Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com> a écrit :
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 05, 2023 at 04:28:36PM +0100, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
>>
>> Regardless of the merits of the patch, let's not introduce typos:
>>
>>> +++ b/man3type/sockaddr.3type
>>> @@ -120,6 +120,26 @@ .SH NOTES
>>>  .I <netinet/in.h>
>>>  and
>>>  .IR <sys/un.h> .
>>> +.SH BUGS
>>> +.I sockaddr_storage
>>> +was designed back when strict aliasing wasn't a problem.
>>> +Back then,
>>> +one would define a variable of that type,
>>> +and then access it as any of the other
>>> +.IR sockaddr_ *
>>> +types,
>>> +depending on the value of the first member.
>>> +This is Undefined Behavior.
>>> +However, there is no way to use these APIs without invoking Unedfined Behavior,
>>
>> Undefined
>>
>>> +either in the user program or in libc,
>>> +so it is still recommended to use this method.
>>> +The only correct way to use different types in an API is through a union.
>>> +However,
>>> +that union must be implemented in the library,
>>> +since the type must be shared between the library and user code,
>>> +so libc should be fixed by implementing
>>> +.I sockaddr_storage
>>> +as a union.
>>>  .SH SEE ALSO
>>>  .BR accept (2),
>>>  .BR bind (2),
>>
>> Also, while I could raise the issue with the Austin Group on your
>> behalf to get the POSIX wording improved, I think it would work better
>> if you initiate a bug report rather than having me do it:
>>
>> https://www.austingroupbugs.net/main_page.php
>>
>> --
>> Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
>> Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3266
>> Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org
>>

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      reply	other threads:[~2023-03-20 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-05 15:28 Alejandro Colomar
2023-02-05 15:31 ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-02-06  6:02   ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-02-06 11:20     ` Rich Felker
2023-02-06 11:55     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-02-06 13:38       ` Rich Felker
2023-02-06 14:11         ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-02-06 17:21           ` Zack Weinberg
2023-02-06 17:48           ` Rich Felker
2023-02-05 23:43 ` Rich Felker
2023-02-05 23:59   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-02-06  0:15     ` Rich Felker
2023-02-06 18:45 ` Eric Blake
2023-02-07  1:21   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-03-18  7:54   ` roucaries bastien
2023-03-20 10:49     ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]

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