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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: stsp <stsp2@yandex.ru>
Cc: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, janderson@rice.edu,
	Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 14:20:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230412182043.GI3298@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d982b441-a618-87bd-92e9-c9e04cabf3ba@yandex.ru>

On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 11:00:19PM +0500, stsp wrote:
> 
> 12.04.2023 22:23, stsp пишет:
> >The same "lazy relocation" can even be
> >applied to a regular dlopen().
> Of course it can't, as dlopen() is expected
> to call library ctors. So only with an optional
> dlmem() flag such behavior should be performed,
> in which case dlsetbase() should also do the
> final relocation and ctors calling.

Have you not realized yet how far outside any concept of "reasonable"
this ever-expanding contract is?

Whatever happens, this whole proposal is going to be rejected, over
and over, and the more effort you pour into engineering it on the
belief that it will somehow eventually be accepted, the more
disappointed (and maybe angry?) you're going to be at the people who
have to keep rejecting it. For the sake of your time and that of the
folks who have been pulled into this discussion, I think it would
really, *really* be a good idea to go figure out how to solve your
practical problem without trying to put new functionality in libc.

Rich

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-12 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-18 16:50 Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:50 ` [PATCH 01/13] elf: strdup() l_name if no realname [BZ #30100] Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 13:54   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 14:12     ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:19       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 14:28         ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:30           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 14:33             ` stsp
2023-03-18 16:50 ` [PATCH 02/13] elf: switch _dl_map_segment() to anonymous mapping Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 17:01   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 18:00     ` stsp
2023-03-29 18:29       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 18:46         ` stsp
2023-03-29 19:17           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 19:43             ` stsp
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 03/13] elf: dont pass fd to _dl_process_pt_xx Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 17:10   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-30 16:08     ` stsp
2023-03-30 20:46       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-31 12:02         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-31 12:54           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-31 14:04             ` stsp
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 04/13] elf: split _dl_map_object_from_fd() into reusable parts Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 05/13] elf: split open_verify() " Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 06/13] elf: load elf hdr fully in open_verify() Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 07/13] elf: convert pread64 to callback in do_open_verify() Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 08/13] elf: convert _dl_map_segments's mmap() to a callback Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 09/13] elf: call _dl_map_segment() via premap callback Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 10/13] elf: convert _dl_map_object to a callback Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 11/13] elf: split _dl_check_loaded() from _dl_map_object Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 12/13] dlfcn,elf: implement dlmem() [BZ #11767] Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 13:45   ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 13:51     ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:10       ` Jonathon Anderson
2023-03-29 14:20         ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:31           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 15:01             ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:35           ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 14:50             ` stsp
2023-03-29 15:20               ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 15:34                 ` stsp
2023-03-30  8:09         ` stsp
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 13/13] dlfcn,elf: impl DLMEM_DONTREPLACE dlmem() flag Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 12:32 ` [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 13:10   ` stsp
2023-03-29 13:18   ` stsp
2023-03-31 12:20     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-31 13:51       ` stsp
2023-03-31 14:49         ` Rich Felker
2023-03-31 14:56           ` stsp
2023-03-31 14:58             ` Rich Felker
2023-03-31 15:03               ` stsp
2023-03-31 14:44       ` stsp
2023-03-31 15:12       ` stsp
2023-03-31 17:12         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-31 17:36           ` stsp
2023-04-01  9:28             ` stsp
2023-04-03 10:04             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-04-03 10:43               ` stsp
2023-04-03 12:01                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-04-03 13:07                   ` stsp
2023-04-05  7:29                   ` stsp
2023-04-05  8:51                     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-04-05  9:26                       ` stsp
2023-04-05  9:31                       ` Florian Weimer
2023-04-12 17:23                       ` stsp
2023-04-12 18:00                         ` stsp
2023-04-12 18:20                           ` Rich Felker [this message]
2023-04-12 18:46                             ` stsp
2023-04-12 19:52                               ` Zack Weinberg
2023-04-12 19:07                             ` stsp
2023-04-13 10:01                             ` stsp
2023-04-13 12:38                               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-04-13 15:59                                 ` stsp
2023-04-13 18:09                                   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-04-13 18:59                                     ` stsp
2023-04-13 19:12                                       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-04-13 19:29                                         ` stsp
2023-04-13 20:02                                           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-04-13 20:21                                             ` stsp
2023-04-13 20:57                                             ` stsp
2023-04-14  7:07                                             ` stsp
2023-04-14  7:36                                             ` stsp
2023-04-14 11:30                                             ` stsp
2023-04-14 19:04                                             ` proof for dlmem() (Re: [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function) stsp
2023-05-01 23:11                                               ` Zack Weinberg
2023-05-02  5:48                                                 ` stsp
2023-05-08 16:00                                                   ` stsp
2023-05-02  6:24                                                 ` stsp
2023-05-08 15:10                                 ` [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function stsp
2023-03-31 18:47           ` stsp
2023-03-31 19:00             ` stsp
2023-03-29 13:17 ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 13:26   ` stsp
2023-03-29 17:03   ` stsp
2023-03-29 18:13     ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 18:29       ` stsp
2023-03-31 11:04       ` stsp
2023-04-13 21:17         ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-04-13 21:58           ` stsp
2023-04-13 22:08           ` stsp
2023-04-13 22:50           ` stsp
2023-04-14 16:15           ` Autoconf maintenance (extremely tangential to Re: [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function) Zack Weinberg
2023-04-14 20:24             ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-04-14 20:40               ` Zack Weinberg
2023-05-08 15:05           ` [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function stsp
2023-05-19  7:26           ` stsp

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