From: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: stsp <stsp2@yandex.ru>, libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/13] elf: switch _dl_map_segment() to anonymous mapping
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 16:17:58 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b8688f4c-bc01-8a9b-95ce-386bc3f6e3f1@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c3c1d76-578b-4e9d-65fe-f53220fe0640@yandex.ru>
On 29/03/23 15:46, stsp wrote:
>
> 29.03.2023 23:29, Adhemerval Zanella Netto пишет:
>> On 29/03/23 15:00, stsp wrote:
>>> But its not ignored in glibc, see
>>>
>>> sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/64/mmap_internal.h
>>>
>>> Without that flag PREFER_MAP_32BIT_EXEC
>>> test fails.
>> Because elf/dl-load.h already defines MAP_COPY that handles it, so why
>> not use it instead?
>
> Would MAP_COPY be a good choice for
> explicitly anonymous mapping? If so -
> can change.
It avoid code duplication.
>
>>>> So basically it would add another mmap on program loading. For instance, loading
>>>> a simple empty main programs:
>>> Yes, that's true.
>>> Is this a problem?
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, Linux limits a maximum mmap both per process [1]. This code increase both
>> the total mapping requires and runtime cost to setup a new shared library.
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/vm.rst#max_map_count
>
> This talks about the map areas.
> I don't think map areas number changed.
> Extra syscall - yes. Extra map area - no.
> So I don't think my patch is a subject of
> the aforementioned system limit.
In fact I think this is gdb limitation, accessing the procfs directly there is
no extra mapping and all the segments are indeed mapped by associated shared
libraries.
>
>>>> And it also slight change the mapping, using the same program:
>>>>
>>>> * Before:
>>>>
>>>> 0x7ffff7dc2000 0x7ffff7de8000 0x26000 0x0 r--p /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>> 0x7ffff7de8000 0x7ffff7f54000 0x16c000 0x26000 r-xp /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>> 0x7ffff7f54000 0x7ffff7faa000 0x56000 0x192000 r--p /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>> 0x7ffff7faa000 0x7ffff7fab000 0x1000 0x1e8000 ---p /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>> 0x7ffff7fab000 0x7ffff7faf000 0x4000 0x1e8000 r--p /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>> 0x7ffff7faf000 0x7ffff7fb1000 0x2000 0x1ec000 rw-p /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>>
>>>> * With this patch:
>>>>
>>>> 0x7ffff7dc1000 0x7ffff7de7000 0x26000 0x0 r--p /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>> 0x7ffff7de7000 0x7ffff7f53000 0x16c000 0x26000 r-xp /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>> 0x7ffff7f53000 0x7ffff7fa9000 0x56000 0x192000 r--p /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>> 0x7ffff7fa9000 0x7ffff7faa000 0x1000 0x0 ---p
>>>> 0x7ffff7faa000 0x7ffff7fae000 0x4000 0x1e8000 r--p /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>> 0x7ffff7fae000 0x7ffff7fb0000 0x2000 0x1ec000 rw-p /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>> Mm, was staring on this for a while,
>>> and file offsets and perms looks the
>>> same. What differences do you mean
>>> exactly?
>> The PROT_NONE mapping now does not have a file associated:
>>
>> 0x7ffff7fa9000 0x7ffff7faa000 0x1000 0x0 ---p
>>
>> This is not a problem itself, but again this change decrease the information
>> that some tools might use to analyze the memory mapping.
>
> Ah, that seems to be a "hole" are
> between segments. I actually think
> my handling is much better. Without
> my patch, such holes are filled with
> actually the _random_ page from the
> original file mapping. Just whatever
> page happened to have that offset.
> Do you think the random page from
> the file is a good idea for tooling/debugging?
It seems to be a gdb limitation that is showing some wrong information. But again,
I really don't see *why* this change is needed: the current algorithms already
maps the ELF segments correctly and have random data on the hole does not really
matter (it would be mapped as PROT_NONE).
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2023-03-18 16:50 [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:50 ` [PATCH 01/13] elf: strdup() l_name if no realname [BZ #30100] Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 13:54 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 14:12 ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:19 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 14:28 ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:30 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 14:33 ` stsp
2023-03-18 16:50 ` [PATCH 02/13] elf: switch _dl_map_segment() to anonymous mapping Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 17:01 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 18:00 ` stsp
2023-03-29 18:29 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 18:46 ` stsp
2023-03-29 19:17 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto [this message]
2023-03-29 19:43 ` stsp
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 03/13] elf: dont pass fd to _dl_process_pt_xx Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 17:10 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-30 16:08 ` stsp
2023-03-30 20:46 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-31 12:02 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-31 12:54 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-31 14:04 ` stsp
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 04/13] elf: split _dl_map_object_from_fd() into reusable parts Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 05/13] elf: split open_verify() " Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 06/13] elf: load elf hdr fully in open_verify() Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 07/13] elf: convert pread64 to callback in do_open_verify() Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 08/13] elf: convert _dl_map_segments's mmap() to a callback Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 09/13] elf: call _dl_map_segment() via premap callback Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 10/13] elf: convert _dl_map_object to a callback Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 11/13] elf: split _dl_check_loaded() from _dl_map_object Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 12/13] dlfcn,elf: implement dlmem() [BZ #11767] Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 13:45 ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 13:51 ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:10 ` Jonathon Anderson
2023-03-29 14:20 ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:31 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 15:01 ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:35 ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 14:50 ` stsp
2023-03-29 15:20 ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 15:34 ` stsp
2023-03-30 8:09 ` stsp
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 13/13] dlfcn,elf: impl DLMEM_DONTREPLACE dlmem() flag Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 12:32 ` [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 13:10 ` stsp
2023-03-29 13:18 ` stsp
2023-03-31 12:20 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-31 13:51 ` stsp
2023-03-31 14:49 ` Rich Felker
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2023-03-31 14:58 ` Rich Felker
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2023-03-31 17:12 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-31 17:36 ` stsp
2023-04-01 9:28 ` stsp
2023-04-03 10:04 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-04-03 10:43 ` stsp
2023-04-03 12:01 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-04-03 13:07 ` stsp
2023-04-05 7:29 ` stsp
2023-04-05 8:51 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-04-05 9:26 ` stsp
2023-04-05 9:31 ` Florian Weimer
2023-04-12 17:23 ` stsp
2023-04-12 18:00 ` stsp
2023-04-12 18:20 ` Rich Felker
2023-04-12 18:46 ` stsp
2023-04-12 19:52 ` Zack Weinberg
2023-04-12 19:07 ` stsp
2023-04-13 10:01 ` stsp
2023-04-13 12:38 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-04-13 15:59 ` stsp
2023-04-13 18:09 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-04-13 18:59 ` stsp
2023-04-13 19:12 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-04-13 19:29 ` stsp
2023-04-13 20:02 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-04-13 20:21 ` stsp
2023-04-13 20:57 ` stsp
2023-04-14 7:07 ` stsp
2023-04-14 7:36 ` stsp
2023-04-14 11:30 ` stsp
2023-04-14 19:04 ` proof for dlmem() (Re: [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function) stsp
2023-05-01 23:11 ` Zack Weinberg
2023-05-02 5:48 ` stsp
2023-05-08 16:00 ` stsp
2023-05-02 6:24 ` stsp
2023-05-08 15:10 ` [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function stsp
2023-03-31 18:47 ` stsp
2023-03-31 19:00 ` stsp
2023-03-29 13:17 ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 13:26 ` stsp
2023-03-29 17:03 ` stsp
2023-03-29 18:13 ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 18:29 ` stsp
2023-03-31 11:04 ` stsp
2023-04-13 21:17 ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-04-13 21:58 ` stsp
2023-04-13 22:08 ` stsp
2023-04-13 22:50 ` stsp
2023-04-14 16:15 ` Autoconf maintenance (extremely tangential to Re: [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function) Zack Weinberg
2023-04-14 20:24 ` Carlos O'Donell
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