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From: stsp <stsp2@yandex.ru>
To: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/13] elf: switch _dl_map_segment() to anonymous mapping
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 23:46:41 +0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7c3c1d76-578b-4e9d-65fe-f53220fe0640@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0ecd46af-74d2-a1ea-cd3f-88c7c9886c21@linaro.org>


29.03.2023 23:29, Adhemerval Zanella Netto пишет:
> On 29/03/23 15:00, stsp wrote:
>> But its not ignored in glibc, see
>>
>> sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/64/mmap_internal.h
>>
>> Without that flag PREFER_MAP_32BIT_EXEC
>> test fails.
> Because elf/dl-load.h already defines MAP_COPY that handles it, so why
> not use it instead?

Would MAP_COPY be a good choice for
explicitly anonymous mapping? If so -
can change.

>>> So basically it would add another mmap on program loading.  For instance, loading
>>> a simple empty main programs:
>> Yes, that's true.
>> Is this a problem?
>>
>>
> Yes, Linux limits a maximum mmap both per process [1].  This code increase both
> the total mapping requires and runtime cost to setup a new shared library.
>
> [1] https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/vm.rst#max_map_count

This talks about the map areas.
I don't think map areas number changed.
Extra syscall - yes. Extra map area - no.
So I don't think my patch is a subject of
the aforementioned system limit.

>>> And it also slight change the mapping, using the same program:
>>>
>>> * Before:
>>>
>>>         0x7ffff7dc2000     0x7ffff7de8000    0x26000        0x0  r--p   /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>         0x7ffff7de8000     0x7ffff7f54000   0x16c000    0x26000  r-xp   /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>         0x7ffff7f54000     0x7ffff7faa000    0x56000   0x192000  r--p   /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>         0x7ffff7faa000     0x7ffff7fab000     0x1000   0x1e8000  ---p   /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>         0x7ffff7fab000     0x7ffff7faf000     0x4000   0x1e8000  r--p   /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>         0x7ffff7faf000     0x7ffff7fb1000     0x2000   0x1ec000  rw-p   /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>
>>> * With this patch:
>>>
>>>         0x7ffff7dc1000     0x7ffff7de7000    0x26000        0x0  r--p   /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>         0x7ffff7de7000     0x7ffff7f53000   0x16c000    0x26000  r-xp   /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>         0x7ffff7f53000     0x7ffff7fa9000    0x56000   0x192000  r--p   /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>         0x7ffff7fa9000     0x7ffff7faa000     0x1000        0x0  ---p
>>>         0x7ffff7faa000     0x7ffff7fae000     0x4000   0x1e8000  r--p   /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>>>         0x7ffff7fae000     0x7ffff7fb0000     0x2000   0x1ec000  rw-p   /home/azanella/Projects/glibc/build/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so
>> Mm, was staring on this for a while,
>> and file offsets and perms looks the
>> same. What differences do you mean
>> exactly?
> The PROT_NONE mapping now does not have a file associated:
>
>    0x7ffff7fa9000     0x7ffff7faa000     0x1000        0x0  ---p
>
> This is not a problem itself, but again this change decrease the information
> that some tools might use to analyze the memory mapping.

Ah, that seems to be a "hole" are
between segments. I actually think
my handling is much better. Without
my patch, such holes are filled with
actually the _random_ page from the
original file mapping. Just whatever
page happened to have that offset.
Do you think the random page from
the file is a good idea for tooling/debugging?


  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-29 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-18 16:50 [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:50 ` [PATCH 01/13] elf: strdup() l_name if no realname [BZ #30100] Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 13:54   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 14:12     ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:19       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 14:28         ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:30           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 14:33             ` stsp
2023-03-18 16:50 ` [PATCH 02/13] elf: switch _dl_map_segment() to anonymous mapping Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 17:01   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 18:00     ` stsp
2023-03-29 18:29       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 18:46         ` stsp [this message]
2023-03-29 19:17           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 19:43             ` stsp
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 03/13] elf: dont pass fd to _dl_process_pt_xx Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 17:10   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-30 16:08     ` stsp
2023-03-30 20:46       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-31 12:02         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-31 12:54           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-31 14:04             ` stsp
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 04/13] elf: split _dl_map_object_from_fd() into reusable parts Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 05/13] elf: split open_verify() " Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 06/13] elf: load elf hdr fully in open_verify() Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 07/13] elf: convert pread64 to callback in do_open_verify() Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 08/13] elf: convert _dl_map_segments's mmap() to a callback Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 09/13] elf: call _dl_map_segment() via premap callback Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 10/13] elf: convert _dl_map_object to a callback Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 11/13] elf: split _dl_check_loaded() from _dl_map_object Stas Sergeev
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 12/13] dlfcn,elf: implement dlmem() [BZ #11767] Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 13:45   ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 13:51     ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:10       ` Jonathon Anderson
2023-03-29 14:20         ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:31           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 15:01             ` stsp
2023-03-29 14:35           ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 14:50             ` stsp
2023-03-29 15:20               ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 15:34                 ` stsp
2023-03-30  8:09         ` stsp
2023-03-18 16:51 ` [PATCH 13/13] dlfcn,elf: impl DLMEM_DONTREPLACE dlmem() flag Stas Sergeev
2023-03-29 12:32 ` [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 13:10   ` stsp
2023-03-29 13:18   ` stsp
2023-03-31 12:20     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-31 13:51       ` stsp
2023-03-31 14:49         ` Rich Felker
2023-03-31 14:56           ` stsp
2023-03-31 14:58             ` Rich Felker
2023-03-31 15:03               ` stsp
2023-03-31 14:44       ` stsp
2023-03-31 15:12       ` stsp
2023-03-31 17:12         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-03-31 17:36           ` stsp
2023-04-01  9:28             ` stsp
2023-04-03 10:04             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-04-03 10:43               ` stsp
2023-04-03 12:01                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-04-03 13:07                   ` stsp
2023-04-05  7:29                   ` stsp
2023-04-05  8:51                     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-04-05  9:26                       ` stsp
2023-04-05  9:31                       ` Florian Weimer
2023-04-12 17:23                       ` stsp
2023-04-12 18:00                         ` stsp
2023-04-12 18:20                           ` Rich Felker
2023-04-12 18:46                             ` stsp
2023-04-12 19:52                               ` Zack Weinberg
2023-04-12 19:07                             ` stsp
2023-04-13 10:01                             ` stsp
2023-04-13 12:38                               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-04-13 15:59                                 ` stsp
2023-04-13 18:09                                   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-04-13 18:59                                     ` stsp
2023-04-13 19:12                                       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-04-13 19:29                                         ` stsp
2023-04-13 20:02                                           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-04-13 20:21                                             ` stsp
2023-04-13 20:57                                             ` stsp
2023-04-14  7:07                                             ` stsp
2023-04-14  7:36                                             ` stsp
2023-04-14 11:30                                             ` stsp
2023-04-14 19:04                                             ` proof for dlmem() (Re: [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function) stsp
2023-05-01 23:11                                               ` Zack Weinberg
2023-05-02  5:48                                                 ` stsp
2023-05-08 16:00                                                   ` stsp
2023-05-02  6:24                                                 ` stsp
2023-05-08 15:10                                 ` [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function stsp
2023-03-31 18:47           ` stsp
2023-03-31 19:00             ` stsp
2023-03-29 13:17 ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 13:26   ` stsp
2023-03-29 17:03   ` stsp
2023-03-29 18:13     ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-03-29 18:29       ` stsp
2023-03-31 11:04       ` stsp
2023-04-13 21:17         ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-04-13 21:58           ` stsp
2023-04-13 22:08           ` stsp
2023-04-13 22:50           ` stsp
2023-04-14 16:15           ` Autoconf maintenance (extremely tangential to Re: [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function) Zack Weinberg
2023-04-14 20:24             ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-04-14 20:40               ` Zack Weinberg
2023-05-08 15:05           ` [PATCH v9 0/13] implement dlmem() function stsp
2023-05-19  7:26           ` stsp

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